b264
September 10, 2019, 8:08am
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Thanks @sebaszz
I checked this table against my own bench testing with a primary injection tool (up to 70A).
The table is spot on.
[Cu%2C%20Ni%2C%20Steel%20efficiency%20chart]
Of course we are talking about continuous current. While the loads during riding vary a lot.
However your battery pack should be designed for certain base load.
In the battery above you are playing with fire…
Thanks Lund Instrument Engineering
Thanks esk8.news
Where is a good source for nickel strip? Especially the bigger stuff, 10mm wide.
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Maybe include voltage/power loss?
b264
September 10, 2019, 8:16am
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Length of all materials is “less than one meter, for esk8 use”
So, the length of a longboard maximum. Obviously, shorter is better.
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b264
September 10, 2019, 8:20am
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I was thinking detailed ratings like that are available but I wanted a condensed, easy-to-use, especially for n00bs format.
This is specifically-as-relating-to-esk8 only and not intended for other uses.
There is a calculator for all that if you follow the Lund Instrument Engineering link above
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b264
September 10, 2019, 8:21am
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I was doing something in which I was getting close to 2 meters with braid. That’s why I’m curious.
Shooting from the hip, I would limit that to 30A continuous, 55A peak.
Maybe I’m thinking about wiring it wrong though…
I would strongly recommend silicone-insulated fine-stranded copper wire for that. It will hold up to vibrations much better.
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Might as well add common connectors. Jst xh/ph, bullet, xt, dc barrel, etc.
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Dareno
September 11, 2019, 2:08am
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b264:
for n00bs format.
Never mind the extremely informative and concise post, what I want to know is why the double zero in noobs. Is it because noobs looks a bit like boobs if you use 2 o’s
Brian you old perv
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@b264
You sir, are a Gentleman and a Scholar.
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That chart for nickel strip is a bit underated just as every other chart is, one strip of 0.15 x 10mm pure Nickel can handle a lot more than 6.71 amps without heating up.
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b264
September 11, 2019, 9:14am
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Honestly you should add a proper ampacity calculator
If you follow the Lund link in the second post, there is one
so real ampacity of my 4inches of doubled 14ga is probably close to 400a instantaneous capable.
This chart is labeled for continuous and not instantaneous. You can pretty much double every number for instantaneous, for a couple seconds or less.
I added this to the first post.
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Good thread. One thing i would like to know is the amount of current going through motor phase wires.
Lets say your motor max is 90a but you have 3 phase wires. is it a simple 30a per wire? or does it cycle 90a per wire very quickly?
b264
September 11, 2019, 9:34am
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It’s 3 phase AC so it cycles between all three in a rotation. Each one is probably “on” for two-thirds of the time.
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When building a battery, am I correct in assuming that these ratings only matter for the series connections as the p connections are only for balance?
This is 0.15 x 12mm nickel, so with 13 x series connections at say 8a per connection I should be good for 104a continuous… would like it to comfortably be 200… am I better to solder some wires across or double up all the s connection nickel?
And then for battery pos and neg, it should be fine to just run multiple copper wires to BMS to allow for 200a?
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b264
September 24, 2019, 10:20pm
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Do you want a 200A continuous battery? What do you want?
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I want it to be capable of 200a continuous. I understand that it will never reach that, but this is a dick swinging activity.
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b264
September 24, 2019, 10:22pm
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Five 12AWG wires for each series connection (spread evenly along the nickel) would deliver that. And on the B+ and B-, five 12AWG coming from the nickel and then combined into a single 0AWG would make for a 200A continuous connection that would run cool.
Complete overkill for any esk8. But it’s what you need for 200A continuous, 400A peak
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You would need a wire of this size
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Could I just run multiple wires to the BMS rather than connecting to a single monster wire i have 8awg on hand so I could use 3 of them for 210a?
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