Ways to increase turn w/o increasing lean

[CiscoV]

might recommend increasing the rear bushing durometer or going with fatcone/ chubby combo.

Meh. My board works perfectly fine for my 165lbs ass. I don’t think I wanna change anything atm lol

[kook]

Brad has some interesting insights on the “bushing help” thread regarding split angle trucks… worth the read!

Bushing and Truck Setup Help Offered

Good, I like what you have done . 30 degrees is a big split and you might want to de-wedge the front a bit to bring it closer to 45 to 50. I jut fined a 60 degree front too twitchy for my taste…I like to get some lean into my turns and rail it a bit! I am not really big on rules, this is skateboarding and it’s bigger than rules The washer functionality depends a lot on what compound your are using and like I said less than 10 degrees in most cases

[Tamatoa]

I am not sure if this respect the parameters of the question… this will turn and doesn’t require leaning. But at speed i think it will be really dangerous.

[DerelictRobot]

I am not sure if this respect the parameters of the question

100% does. Haha. That looks like a deathtrap. A fun deathtrap.

Personally I feel like lean and turn are intrinsically tied together on current skateboard designs. Learning to use lean to your advantage at speed is part of improving your riding ability

If anything, having a board that has the ability to lean further while maintaining stability increases my ability to turn at high speed. Kinda the exact principle behind channel trucks.

[Tamatoa]

It’s fun analog definitely needs some getting used to. But electric… man I think it’s scary.

[DerelictRobot]

It also looks like it puts you on par with OneWheelers & EUCs in terms of looking like a complete nard.

[Tamatoa]

Yep definitely looked cooler in my mind when I bought it about 10 years ago. Ride a few times and realized it was extenuating got back to regular skateboard .

[RipTideSports]

It is hard to tell if I am needed here…If so, someone please articulate what is needed and I will try to help.

[Sebi]

Tl;dr - What bushings should we use if we’re turning using water bottles

[b264]

Does an increased ride height increase turn without increasing lean?

Nope.

[RipTideSports]

I am doing my best to ignore the water discussion

[CHAINMAILLEKID]

Increase precision and reduce turning slop is really the only other way.

Deck width, axle width, and truck type don’t don’t affect the relationship between lean angle and steering angle.

[RipTideSports]

Truck type (RKP vs TKP) does affect the relationship between lean angle and steering angle.

[Movation]

No matter what you do your board at those speeds it comes down to mostly physics and the riders skills.

[tipsy]

Is there a baseplate angle where RKP becomes TKP, or is it the lean-turn progression curve being different between the two?

[RipTideSports]

On a RKP, the pivot axis and the king pin axis are perpendicular to the axle path so the axle scribes a straight line when watching from the side of the board. On the other hand a TKP, the pivot axis and the king pin axis are NOT perpendicular so the axle scribes an arc or an ellipse that is dependent on several factors that are difficult to predict

[Movation]

Without derailing the topic too much is there a correlation between the length of the deck and turning ability, logic says I should be able to turn tighter on a shorter deck, but experience has been the opposite my sweet spot is around 38".

[KfromtheBay]

Yes. Same reason your car turns tighter than a limousine. Shorter base, tighter radius.

[Movation]

You answered my question I am not a
Taking stabilty into account. Just because a short deck can turn tighter at speed doesnt mean you should.

[b264]

Shortening the distance between two otherwise identical truck setups (a.k.a. smaller wheelbase) does in fact increase the turn without increasing the lean.