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PSYCHOFRAME by E-TOXX aka NOWIND - ROCKSHOX - 4WD - 11INCH - 16S -16KW

Long time gone without an buildthread from mine, showing in details what ya working with sometimes inspires others to go the same route.
Which is very nice as long you dont try to do this for living (-;
But i´m missing something … this spirit thing… away from comercial fuck off…, just posting pictures on instagram is poorly shit compared to in deep threads

coming back to good old days, showing what i passionated with, something new and innovating !

Worked on this since one year, i will not start with the History stuff, gone through at least 3 rideable Versions, thousends of FUSION360 hours, 3Dprinted and CNC machined tons of stuff ,got over 500 pictures from progress, could share this later if people are interrested.

Lets Start with what i have now, my Daily Driver , OBSESSED AF (((
after 6years of eMTB something which complete blowed my mind again

Whats innovating and was never showed before (as far as i know) :
DRIVEN TRUCK - like a UTV the complete AXLE works as “Hanger” and is driven through center chain
2-stage

FULL AIR SUSPENSION : NOT with crossdirection whishbones BUT with longitudinal direction whishbones - PROS : you need just 2 (not 4) and the complete steering principles stays the same

VERTICAL CHASSIS PLATES - 2MOTORS-4WD-LOCKED DIFF , just the consequences of it (-:

Pictures or it dont happened :

LOWEST POSITION - FULLY COMPRESSED

HIGHEST POSITION - FULLY EXPANDET

UNDERNEATH


FRONT / REAR


TILTED

ROCKSHOX


AMMO BOX (BATTERY AIRRIDE VESC GRAPHANDLE)





BINDINGS

CHASSIS SOLO

DIMENSIONS
OUTER SPURWIDTH 780MM


GROUNDCLEARENCE under TRUCK 110MM

GROUNDCLEARENCE under STANDS fully expandet 170MM

GROUNDCLEARENCE under STANDS fully COMPRESSED 55MM

GROUNDCLEARENCE in MIDDLE / DROP fully expandet 200MM

WHEELBASE FULLY EXPANDET 1020MM


READY TO ROCK

WHEIGHT 65KG

How it Rides :
Once you get used too absoltuely AMAZING
never felt that safe and planted on a board
wide spur and alot wheight helps

Due to locked Diffs / no diffs on both AXLES you have to work more then regulary to get her moving around corners , in special on concrete the massiv 11INCHERS needs to be kicked hard

Going ALL OVER, sand , rocks, deep in da woods , as long you have traction you are moving

SPECS :
Motors : 2 X QS2000W (10KG ONE)
ESC : VESC 75300 by Trampa
BATTERY : 16S-12P Samsung Q30
100MM Suspension TRAVEL
Topspeed around 40KMH
RANGE around 20km by average of 20kmh (average cruisung, no deep sand burnout stuff)

VIDEOS :

Running in Current Mode - 300AMPS on max Motorcurrent

Big Drifting

Small Drifting deep sand

it can be jumped

steering / Lean on concrete

Airride demo

Burnout slomo , @1.13 minute starts 4WD

uncutted average ride, example for the 20km range

many more online, YouTube : E-TOXX PSYCHOFRAME

Hope you like it, feel free to comment.

And of course this parts are for sale (-:

CHEERS
Jens

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WHAT DOES THIS BUILD COST ?

I try to split this question in several Parts

What i would like to sell is what i produce by myself, i would prefer to sell no FREE MARKET PARTS

You will have a complete Chassis Kit, looks like this :
(SPROCKETS AND CHAINS ARE NOT IN POSITION ON THIS PICTURES)

FAT AND FLAT IN NEUTRAL POSITION - LONGEST WHEELBASE

FULLY COMPRESSED - THIS IS SLIGHTY MORE THEN WITH MOUNTED ROCKSHOCK POSSIBE

FULLY EXPANDET- THIS IS SLIGHTY MORE THEN WITH MOUNTED ROCKSHOCK POSSIBE

KNUCKLE BATTERING RAM / STEERING UNIT

UNDERSIDE COMPLETE (WITHOUT STAINLESS SKIDPLATE)

UNDERSIDE COMPLETE (WITH STAINLESS SKIDPLATE)

STEERING UNIT FROM UNDERSIDE - INTEGRADET SKIDPLATE -

HONEYCOMP MADNESS

HOLLOW AXLES

Besides from the 30 CNC Parts we have alot Rods, also lathed and drilled
made from Precision Shaft Steel Material CF53, Hardened and Ground , bothsided Threaded

Alloy Chassis Connectors and Spacers for Rockshox

Sprockets ISO08 size better known as 428, Motorcycle stuff

Okay lets List the parts :

30 CNC PARTS FROM 7075 ALLOY
26 RODS
1 STAINLESS STEEL SKIDPLATE
2 HOLLOW TRUCKS 660MM WIDE
8 SPROCKETS
4 CHAINS
4 SHAFT COLLARS - CLAMP COLLARS DOUBLE SPLIT
4 SPHERICAL BEARINGS
4 NEEDLE BEARINGS
8 BALL BEARINGS
76 CYLINDRICAL BUSHES,SELF LUBRICATTING
4 THRUST WASHER
8 ELASTOMERE BUSHING
ALL SCREWS ETC
SPROCKETS WELDET ON DRIVESHAFTS / TRUCKS

THIS PACKAGE COSTS 2970€
(does NOT include SHIPPING COSTS or EU TAXES)

Let me say that i had thought about alot of what i need to ask for this Parts!
I hope that you can accept this price, IMO its fair.
*If i split the 2970€ in : *
2100€ CNC Parts
*870€ RODS/TRUCKS/SPROCKETS/ETC *
CNC work takes 80 hours which gives me a 25€/hour on the CNC PARTS, which is not much
in this 25€/h all costs like TOOLS , STOCK, ELECTRICITY, ETC are includet

With this Package you will be ready to mount all main Parts to complete the Board

What else does it needs ?
Really depends on how cheap you can buy some stuff
Roughly if you get good prices i think you need at least
3000€ to complete even more
I WILL LIST WHAT I USE ON MY ACTUALLY SETUP
(tested also APS120MM OUTRUNNERS and the QS1000W)

Mostly German Shops, if you see the prices in the SHOP its with VAT, if you order from non EU you dont have to pay IMO , in my listing all prices are VAT free


VESC 75300 2X 400€ = 800€

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QS2000Watt 120-70 2x250€ = 500€
Take your time to find a good offer, i was rushed and paid alot for expressshipping.
Linkes are for BELT DRIVEN one, BUT you WANT the CHAINDRIVEN !!!
I´m pretty sure its the same SHAFTDESIGN but not 100% , the sprocket itself will be replaced ,
so if someone confirms BELT AND CHAIN is SAME you can go with the BELT ONE TOO

http://www.qs-motor.com/product/qsmotor-2000w-120-70h-bldc-motor-for-electric-motorcycle/

https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/qsmotor-2000w-bldc-mid-drive-motor-for-electric-scooter-62356942070.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.302f3d39aaHffY
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AS YOU WILL KNOW LIION BATTERY PRICES ARE EXPLODING RIGHT KNOW
**I paid for Samsung 18650-30Q , 2,40€ in 11/2020 -16S12P -192cells , 460€ - **
TODAY : 5,70 , 1094€ )-:

NKON | Samsung INR18650-30Q 3000mAh - 15A - 18650 - Li-ion - Wiederaufladbare Batterien

TIRES AND HUBS

Mefo

AMF Hub

Mounting service 20€ for 4

330€


KART ADAPTER 30MMx62MM
105€
https://www.kart-schuette.de/karts/radstern-30-x-62-mm-gold-43253.html


**ROCKSHOX MONARCH , MAKE SURE TO ORDER THE RIGHT BUSHINGS

4xBushings for 10 mm Monarch/Kage/Vivid/Ario Rear Shocks as of 2010 silver/22.4 mm 17645 17645-3-6808 ROCKSHOX PART NUMBER 11.4115.012.590

2xMonarch RL Rear Shock black/190 mm x 51 mm / tune mid 43806 43806-694-4552
ROCKSHOX PART NUMBER 00.4118.123.004

https://r2-bike.com/ROCKSHOX-Daempfer-Monarch-RL-Tune-Mid-Reb-Mid-Comp-190-x-51-mm
370€ mit buchsen


Snowboard Boots and Bindings
I have now
Burton Moto Snowboardboots
UNION Contact Pro 2020 Snowboardbindung
360€


BATTERY BOX

AMMO BOX SIZE 3, from US ARMY
800 Patronen Kaliber 5.56 (Größe 3)
310x175x220 OUTER DIM
300x170x210 INNER DIM

https://www.amazon.de/Originale-gebrauchte-Munitionskiste-Metallkiste-Mun-Kiste/dp/B019HT6PQ2/ref=pd_sbs_15/258-4075740-0177526?pd_rd_w=tFoXW&pf_rd_p=b1c388c3-48c2-4960-8532-fa8f1477aee9&pf_rd_r=K09BDAZ8161W1VK87Y78&pd_rd_r=d353a601-5bf6-421b-b684-1176d69a9a5f&pd_rd_wg=kYh7W&pd_rd_i=B019HT6PQ2&psc=1

30€

AIRRIDE
nice to have but not really needet , BUT YOU WANT THAT FOR SURE
some FESTO valves, some tubes, 3dprinted Housing , maybe 80€
3d printed housings for VESC
works with Xinomi Electric Airpump 40€
Xiaomi XM500010 Mi Portable Electric Air Compressor Mobiler Luftkompressor, A, 1


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PLACEHOLDER the SECOND

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PLACEHOLDER the THIRD

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The man,
The legend :joy::ok_hand::+1:
What a crazy build.
I wonder how it is to crash fixed in such a heavy board thou?

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I have really enjoyed watching this build progress on instagram dude! Thanks for sharing with us, and thanks for stepping it up a notch!

Truly inspirational build, and as you say, would be awesome to see people follow in your footsteps!

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SO SICK JENSO!
SO SICK!
peace

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Inspirational.
We all bow down to you.

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RIP anyone else chance for BOTY

Great work tho. it looks awesome.

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Such a sick ride Jens, this’ll be a good read! :smiley:

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The endgame to any current and upcoming mntnbuilds for next 10 years. Crazy stuff. Hope a lite version of this may be available in coming years. Crazy good build!

P.S design is RAD, minimalistic yet really mean.

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Wow @NoWind the military wants to hire you that shit is dope keep innovating my friend :call_me_hand:

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Any idea what sorta Wh/Mile your getting on-road and off-road?

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he metions 20km of range average with that 16s12p 30q. Thats about 2kWh
→ 100Wh/km roughly xD

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Always innovating, Jens you are an inspiration to everyone

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Saw it on IG and am even more amazed now that I get the detailed build!

That’s :nut_and_bolt: and an absolute massive unit man!

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Andy, thanks dude, cheers to Russia!
To be honnest in the beginning i was scared as fuck to have a bad wipeout with this heavy board.
And i still have alot respect but i really have to say that i never have had a board which felt more planted.
I only have had a very few crashes, nothing at high speed, nothing bad happened.
Most time i felt on my ass and then you have to climp up again over the reartires (((

Hi. Thanks alot for kind words. Thanks for following me on Instagram too. I really wanna see more of this rigs running, its an unbelieveable kind of offroad riding and i´m pretty sure many people would love this.

Hey. Thanks alot Dude, thats very kind !

Haha nice one Bro, thanks make my day (((

yeah very sick, thanks for your comment !

Thanks Man, very kind words ! Oh well i got many ideas how to change details and make it lighter for example, actually i have to focus on this one, already got a second complete frame sitting on the bench, i really need to sell this first, broke as fk ((((

army told me they want at least the AMMO BOX back (((( , thanks buddy !!!

Yes, by average riding with 20kmh, i charge after a 20km run around 22AH back in the batterys, with 60Volts nominal it is around 65wH/km, this is the lowest you can expect offroad from my expierence, also had tracked rides with more then 100wH/km , do more drifting in sand and stuff like that

yeah i was not excact above, cells are by around 3.5V “without load” after 20km, i only get around 22Amps back in the battery by charging, so its more 1300wH of the 2000wH used.

Lee (-: Thanks Brother for very kind words!

Hey. Thanks Dude, yeah i thougt instagram is not enough to show all we have here (((

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Everytime etoxx stuff passes my bench. It’s like it came from the high elves of eskate.

An honor.

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Hell yes, I would look at them all

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I’m honestly speechless. Been watching on Instagram and drooling mostly, stoked to get more of this on the forum!
This is pure insanity man, masterclass build

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