Designed and printed a boardstand (so my freshly built ride never launches off the workbench again)
Pretty happy with v2, although I will make a few minor tweaks. Itâs super strong. Iâm sure it can support the entire boardâs weight if not 2x-3x.
Took the board out for itâs first official mud run in jumper config (12s2p pack only). The settings adjustment from full range to jump isnât smooth, and I can see messing this up by accident if Iâm not vigilant.
Change VESC settings via Freesk8:
Battery Capacity: 21 Ah â 8.4 Ah
Battery Current Max: 62.5 A â 25 A
Battery Current Max Regen: -16 A â -8 A
Save to both sides
Change battery settings in Davega:
Battery Capacity: 21 Ah â 8.4 Ah
That saidâŚ
Iâm still running with an 80% scale factor, but even then this thing rips! I had the throttle pinned as often as I dared, and it started raining, but what a blast. Shedding 7+ lbs (3.25 kg) in battery makes a noticeable difference. No problem popping the front end up over bumps and off curbs. Not quite ready for full bunny hops, but weâll get there. Carving at 25mph like nobodyâs watching . Hit some grass, some mud, some puddles, some dirt. My clothes are covered in spray
Iâve got those 150mm sunmate tires waiting on the bench, but Iâm really really starting to like these knobby 200mm jawnsâŚ
The good
No esc faults
Good braking power
Solid acceleration
Respectable ~10 mile range
Tires conquer everything
Rain posed no problems
12s2p is perfect for its intended use
The bad
Serious voltage sag during the hill climb at the end (as expected)
Heat! (bad bad bad)
Need more ride time to learn this board
Need headlights
Maybe itâs obvious now, but trapping a beefy esc in a sealed, airtight case with a bunch of other electronics and batteries basically created an oven. The esc more or less only got hotter from the start of the ride. Even the NESE battery pack was noticeable warm to the touch.
Thatâs confirmation enough - the DV6 needs airflow (or itâs own case).
Bonus - I got to wash the board off with the hose! Wild. I know the reasons, but casually hosing off a $2k+ electric machine still blows my mind a little. Footpad holes made it very easy to clean most of the mud off. Ran the motors immediately after to dry. Good as new.
Spiked footpad side project continues. I figured out a first crack at the hardware & design. I think i looked through the dimensions of every single nut and washer McMaster carries in order to settle on these.
1/8" black steel track spike
12-32 nut (tapped from a 10-32 nut by hand)
Oversized #10 washer
TPU test print
Despite my best intentions at minimizing complexity, I added a loopkey. It was just a bit too cumbersome to open the case, fish around for the right xt90, and unplug in order to power down.
Holeâs made. No going back now. Dremel + drill bit for dogbone cut took no time at all.
You should make a thread dedicated to this. This is the best thing Iâve seen in a while and I wholeheartedly love how swiftly it evolved and the result looks damn great.
Bravo
It needs an official name now, but I wonât honour you one because Iâm terrible at naming
I used some downtime to investigate this âcricket-chirpâ sound Iâve been hearing from one motor. It started on my last build, before its untimely death, and continues after the move to this build. It wasnât so bad that it was concerning, but more an issue that it masks any other noises that might end in worse problems.
At one point I slammed that motor into a rock, so it doesnât surprise me that thereâs an issue. After some investigation, there seems to be some shaft misalignment - I can see the gap between stator and rotor bell increasing and decreasing as I hand spin the bell. I figured it was rubbing somewhere.
Time to disassemble! Lucky me, found a broken winding in the process (or caused it).
I used the aspirin trick to remove the winding lacquer:
Get one tab of full strength aspirin (not tylenol, advil, etc). Get soldering iron hot and tin the tip. Press end of winding and iron tip into aspirin at the same time. Make sure to use a real fume extractor (or hold your breath) - fumes are super toxic, more than usual. After 10-20 seconds, the lacquer has melted off and the wire will come out tinned!
While I was at it, I figured Iâd do a full battle harden with epoxy (and colloidal silica to thicken). Some of the other windings were loose and did not inspire confidence.
Isopropyl alcohol on a shop rag does a nice job of cleaning up epoxy while still wet. This was actually a lot easier and quicker than I expected, and I only had a popsicle stick and gloved fingers to apply. Maybe not entirely necessary, but the peace of mind knowing the motor is more waterproof (including sensor) is great.
After a 24hr cure, I went to work filing down the edge of the stator to solve the rubbing/noise issue. Medium file, fine file, 400 grit, 800 grit sandpaper, b/c why not.
I ended up blueing almost the entire stator and found nothing conclusive⌠but, silver lining, something happened after 3-4 rounds of reassembly that shook/smashed/moved the noise into silence. My best guess is that it may have been Flipskyâs âbattle-hardeningâ/balancing epoxy that got dislodged and was rubbing. Either way, the noise is 90% gone.
And now I have one motor with a shiny raw aluminum âmachined lipâ.
It was a fun learning opportunity anyway. Disassembling these motors is about as difficult as disassembling a truck. I wonât hesitate to inspect in the future.
Wiring - B/c of ^ had to rewire the whole damn box, extend the phase & sensor wires further, and come up with some new mounting brackets for the nese batteries.
Very happy with this foam - firm but supportive. Perfect fender washers on amazon for M5 mounting fasteners (I looked everywhere). I was getting some damage to the enclosure with smaller washers, when torqued down tight.
Wiring - Played phase bullet whack-a-mole until I found the combination that didnât make the motors sound like a garbage disposal (so I didnât have to boot up VESC tool) AND color coded so future me wouldnât have to play this game again
Lights - Dry fit some T6 LED lights (idea I shamelessly stole from @Toughook) with the included ârubber bandâ handlebar straps, then had one rip off on a group ride⌠my mistake.
Test - Threw some final fixes together at the last minute to make the board rideable and hit a Friday group ride (tape over old gland holes, no loopkey yet, etc) annnnd ate pavement 5 minutes from my house.
That pink line is me cruising along at 30mph (I thought it was more like 20). I was distracted and in a rush, trying to follow gps directions on my phone to the meetup point. That purple/blue/green section is me hitting a patch of rough road and the next thing I know Iâm sprawled out superman style in the middle of the street and my board is spinning off down the road, enclosure side down like a turtle on its back. First esk8 crash.
I sat on the side of the road in a bit of a daze and chilled for a minute. Iâve unfortunately crashed cars and bikes before, so I wasnât in much of a rush any longer. Checked myself and the board over. Board was still running like a champ, like nothing happened. Thank the PETG gods, my batteries didnât move a mm. @Savage1 heatsink took the brunt of the slide - not so anodized any longer. But it too is still very secure in itâs spot. This is why I loctite & reinforce everything.
Jacket ripped on the right shoulder and all the pads got banged up. I 100% attribute my lack of hand injury to these Knox gloves I just picked up. I used to ride with summer weight textile gloves, with minimal padding, until I started reading up on how common wrist injuries are on all PEVs. The gloves performed flawlessly and have the scratch marks to prove it. Not even any pain in my hands, and I definitely hit the ground first with them, despite (usually) knowing how to fall.
I came away from what couldâve been really bad with only hip abrasion, a feeling like someone punched me hard in the chest, and a sore left shoulder. After a weekend, only the hip still hurts. It takes me longer than Iâd like to get geared up to ride, but Iâm quite glad I did. And all this happened before the group ride even started!
Of course, I couldnât stop there. So I limped to the meetup point, borrowed some bandages, and rode a little more conservatively than usual. Ride ended when I got a flat without the right tools to replace. All in all, a good friday night.
Glad youâre alright! It took me awhile to feel comfortable after my crash last year. Iâm still kind of a puss, though. Great write up. I will send you a new one without those stormcore holes, ( when I get around to making some more). Also, very nice build.
Was pretty impressed, not only with the light output, but the fact they still work. When I had them strapped to the front hanger with their included bike rubber band mount, one popped off mid ride. It was dangling from its wires. Before I had a chance to secure it, the wire actually ripped off, the light hit the ground, bounced, and landed back on the deck next to my foot. I snagged it and put it in my pocket - all at ~20mph
I cracked the light open to check damage, assuming Iâd have to order another from Ali. Clean rip right at the board. I was able to disassemble the whole thing, suck the solder off, and reattach the + and - wires to their pads. Reassembled, coated the wire exit in silicone, loctited shut, and installed. Good as new.
21" length of Mr. Tuffy Bicycle tape covers the interior wall of an 8" knobby tire. I used the 20x1.95-2.5 size for the width, mainly. Fit well. Plenty left over.
How hot do these lights get, out of curiosity? I have a pretty neat set and they get to 60C+ within a couple minutes of running, when at full brightness
Theyâve only been on for a total of about 60 seconds, haha, so no data to report yet.
That said, when I disassembled them (shouldâve taken photos) I realized thereâs very little to these lights. One circular pcb, with one CREE/COB LED mounted in the center, a few components on the back, the reflective cone and cover glass. Thatâs it. The pcb is mounted on an interior lip of the housing and the whole housing acts as a heatsink. The housing is massive compared to the pcb (and LED). If there were no heat concerns, the light could be much smaller. Without testing, the housing looks like itâll dissipate a good amount of heat. And itâs exterior surface is ribbed/finned like a traditional heatsink for more surface area.
Hm yeah. I have a set of these on their way to me to test as well. The lights I currently have are three brightness settings but much smaller, with two diodes. I imagine yours wonât get tooooo hot
Also, arenât you supposed to run straight diodes on an LED driver board, not right off a buck? I assume you set the current limit before plugging in?
Itâs more than an led on a pcb. And itâs intended to be powered via USB, at least the ones I got.
No limits set anywhere. Iâm not sure how you would - maybe within a smart BMS, using the discharge line?