Thanks to everyone for all the info posted on this forum. It’s been 32 years since I rode a skateboard but I decided a few months ago to try and build a long board for my son who is 14. I built a CNC machine in my garage a few yeas ago and bought a 3D printer as this build progressed. A big part of the fun for me is making the various components, hopefully without failing What a fun rabbit hole to go down!
Particular thanks to @MoeStooge, @Winfly, and several of the battery builders for sharing your ideas with this forum!
I wanted to try and make a NKP 3-Link since they seem extremely stable at high speeds. I don’t anticipate my son racing with this board, but stability is a great thing and I experienced enough speed wobbles in my teens to never want that to happen with this build. I don’t own a lathe, which seems like an essential tool to making the NKP 3-Link. So that was a big challenge. I used telescoping steel tubes over a 8mm steel threaded rod. The main center heim joint is a 1/2" ID and the steel tube I’m using has the following dimensions: Chrome/Moly Tube - Round: 1/2" O.D. x .065" wall, Chrome/Moly Tube - Round: 5/8" O.D. x .049" wall. So if you do the math you get 0.027" spacing between the tubes. With the tolerances for manufacturing, it’s a pretty nice fit. I named it Octagon because the coupling surrounding the steel tubing is octagonal in shape. This coupling helps keep the steel tube on center and provides the pressure when secured to push the washers up against the center heim joint bushing. I went with an octagonal shape coupling so the smaller heim joint rods will have a flush surface to mate with and ensure full movement of the heim joint itself while allowing some adjustment for the vertical angles of the rods. In actuality, this does limit the positions of the rods, essentially one vertical and one horizontal, but between those two positions and different durometer bushings I think we have enough adjustability for the ride of the board. I made bushings with 80a, 90a, and 95a durometer ratings. Looks like we’re going with 95a in the back and 90a in the front to start. I was pretty surprised how much of a difference the different stiffness of the bushings made. If I make a board for my younger daughter, I may use some combo of the 90a and 80a…
I cut out a temporary plywood deck just to see if my trucks worked. Overall, they seem great at this point, but the testing was limited to push speeds and I didn’t use any Loctite or lock washers at that point. The temp board also let me test the bushings. The center main 1/2 heim joint did twist a little on the temp deck, so I’ve got some Nord-Lock wedge lock washers and permanent Loctite for those threads which will hopefully prevent any twisting on the final board. With the heim joint rods in a more horizontal position and 95a durometer bushings, I could barely get the board to turn and I’m 220 pounds… I don’t think we’ll ever use the heim joint rods in the horizontal position, just too hard to turn the board. But we’ll see.
This was also my first time milling aluminum on my CNC. I’m using a Bosch 1617 EVS router, so I’ve learned the best feeds and speeds for aluminum. Mostly 0.02 depth of cut and 50 Inches per minute, so milling the various parts takes several days. The deck itself is milled from 1" thick HDPE. It’s pretty smooth so I’m going to have to figure out some type of grip tape usage in the end or maybe some glass fris… The Base Plate, Base Plate extension and Center Piece support are all milled 6061 aluminum. Takes a while and doesn’t have the mirror finish (I’m dry cutting) but it looks pretty good.
I milled the 36T kegal for the 110mm wheels from Delrin (acetal homopolymer) which was a fun challenge. Needed to buy some 0.1" diameter endmills with the ability for deep cuts to make the 3mm radius cuts for the pulley. Found them at Kodiak Cutting Tools and made in the USA which was nice since everything else for ESK8 seems to be made in China…
I’m using Fusion 360 with the hobbyist license. Have really enjoyed the McMaster-Carr components to add and then order. Makes getting various supplies really easy. I’m in Charlotte NC and McMaster is in Atlanta so it’s always next day shipping for me. Still need to buy some hardware as you’ll see in the photos, some of the button head bolts are too long…
I used the compression design from @Winfly for the battery holders to avoid buying a spot welder. I milled the holders from Delrin on the CNC instead of 3D Printing them since I had plenty of DElrin leftover from the pulleys. I made one change, added a flat set screw above both terminals and tapped the holes. The set screws help put pressure on the braided wire directly at the terminals. I wasn’t sure if the nylon threaded rods would put enough downward pressure on the braided wire with the 3D Printed node in the @Winfly design. Haven’t seen much discussion so perhaps his change was unnecessary. Not sure if I need loctite on those flat threaded screws yet. We’ll see. They seem pretty secure.
I went with 10mm ceramic bearings as I have a 8mm ID / 10mm OD compression sleeve around the 8mm threaded rod. Wow are they smooth, so much better than the bearings I used 32 years ago.
The motor plate is 10mm thick aluminum (all the aluminum is 6061) to match the typical 10mm spacers. I am making one change and that’s to add a belt tensioner to the motor plate. Bought some 8mm ceramic bearings for the tensioner. Haven’t milled the new plates yet.
I’m using reclaimed Panasonic ncr18650bd batteries. We’ll see how that goes - I’ll start them at 5 Amps with a 12S6P configuration. If my son needs more power / speed I’ll probably jump on a future Molicel group buy.
Other items:
Flipsky 6374 190 KV Motors with their controller and Dual FSESC6.6 VESC
13S 48V 20A Li-ion Cell 18650 Battery Protection BMS PCB Board with Balance Function from Amazon…
Not sure what charger I will use yet…
I plan to 3D Print some type of enclosure for the battery / BMS / VESC… probably modify one of the shared Thingiverse designs folks on this forum have posted…
Any suggestions or comments are appreciated.
Thanks!