Down bad AF 4 reviews of big daddy Hoyt 5" hubs/tires & testing of 5" tires on other hubs


It fits! Now I gotta find somebody to do a little CNC work for me.

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Have to get some bearings for my Sufnacho Kegel wheels before I can use them.

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Looks really nice! Keep us posted!

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Tell that to the stanced community :joy:

Could I get that file? Pretty please? I wanna try a service like sendcutsend.

I don’t think sendcutsend does 3D CNC work I looked at them for that recently

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Not necessarily the exact thing it’s self

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Man, I feel Jeff’s pain WRT pricing. I’m having a real hard time finding somebody to do the CNC work for a price that makes any sense at all. We’re talking ~$1k+ for a set of four. At that price, it makes more sense for me to just get / build a desktop CNC of my own.

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This is the future of fab

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We talking to Jeff today about your design, we think it’s super cool!

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For cheapest possible CNC prices, check these vendors:

But short of pro-bono no one is going to cnc any hubs of this size/shape for much cheaper than $1k, even China. Especially if you’re literally only ordering 4. That’s the cost of materials and time.

This is why @surfnacho’s infinity hubs are $1k per set, and his family owns their own full size cnc…

Ways to cut costs:

  • Aggressively remove any design feature that adds time to cut - I’m talking super basic design here
  • Minimize 3D features - 2D is your friend
  • Make each hub 2 pieces of the same part (or more) - now you’ve doubled your qty and get bulk discounts
  • No threading, very large radii, no tight tolerances at all
  • Reduce overall part size (smaller max dia)

Ultimate way to cut cost:

  • Design the hubs so they’re composed of a stack of 2D plates - skip cnc entirely and get them laser/waterjet → this would be a great way to continue prototyping for cheap, but balancing is going to be a real hassle.

Other option:

  • Find a friend with access to an industrial 3D printer (like a Markforged) - print these in something like the Onyx carbonfiber reinforced nylon at material cost
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I wonder if we could produce numbers and arrange a groub puy to affect their numbers enough to make it an effective means for the numbers of us who are dying to come up with an alternative to figuring out how to sell a kidney to afford the supa premium hoyt gear…

Alternatively, how silly is it to think i could hand machine somin like this? have a friend who offered to help me mqke these for myself. He’s been a machine shop tool n dye maker forever nd wee have access to a pretty good custom engine rebuild shop with plenty of equipment to make them, he didnt batt an eye when i told him what im tryna do.

So i told him i needed time to come up with the design but havent even begun yet, and when i sked him what the cost would be to help me make em and he said hed rather justbdo the favor for me in case he needed anything in the future that i could help him with. [Kinda reminded me of this community here lol]

I wonder if qe xould actually make a few sets and then god forbid that one veey special nacho isnt coming back, there will be not only an enormous void left in the community but also perhaps an enormous opportunity to try producing something approximate to his super premium hubs, of which i am very thankful i recently recieved after a long delay.

Which now seemingly could be some of the last. Really i sure hope not because i dont reallllyyyyy want to be tempted to try starting an esk8 business in any fashion.

Actyally, secretly i seriusly do, just this week, i was brainstorming how much practice it would take me to become anything close to a sender or make the ranks master battery builder.

Anyways, great work, @Ancient ! Think ill pm ya and call my pal to see if we can realize thr potential that seems to be here

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@Ancient if you want to drum up a group order for these count me in!

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I’m thinking about it. Will spin off a new thread if I do. In talks with a local CNC shop right now.

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What about the ninja hubs route? Only making the parts that really need to be out of metal, that is. I do NOT like metal kegel cores, anyways, they’re a serious pain in the sack to work with.
Or, fuck, just full on plastic. What are mbs hubs made of anyways? Use that.

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On most hubs, yeah, metal is better, duh. But 5 inch tires aren’t meant for rough terrain anyways.

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Yeah - this is a good thought. I’ll play around with a design that pairs a metal rim with a plastic core. The plastic will still need to be CNC’d unless somebody wants to spring for an injection mold, but it could simplify some geometries and lead to a less expensive build overall. I think we need to keep the metal rim because Jeff’s tires say 40psi max and I could see the resulting stress on the rim going out of bounds for plastic trying to hold that kind of pressure.

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What about the bearing seat? Doesnt this sort of have to be kind of exact?

@Kai and off topic :man_facepalming:t2: I am so sorry, getting your tires in the mail tommorow morning and sending you a few extras :man_facepalming:t2::man_facepalming:t2::man_facepalming:t2: Been a bit busy

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The bearing seats and kegel interface will definitely need some precision machining. I’m going to throw some GD&T on the bolt hole pattern that holds the pieces together as well.

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Lol yer good I threw together a scrappy lil thane build for now lmao. I been working a bunch of events anyways.

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