Best last-mile PEV for rainy days – esk8?

Sup!

Backstory (feel free to skip)

A few months ago my ebike’s battery died and I’ve been too busy/lazy to fix it. Instead I started using these Bolt rent scooters that lie scattered around the sidewalks of cities. I gotta say – the convenience is pretty remarkable!

  • No need to lock your shit when you get somewhere
  • No need to charge or carry it up to your apartment / office
  • For my commuting needs I end up spending ~30€ per month, definitely cheaper than any esk8 I’ve ever built if I were to divide the time I’ve actually ridden it (while commuting).
  • Goes slow and has manual brakes, so no helmet needed
  • Not yours so don’t have to worry about it breaking / weather affecting it

The main appeal for me is not needing to drag the scooter with you when you get somewhere. These days I most often commute to meet up with people, so not needing to explain why I have a big skateboard with me, or worry about my hair getting flattened by my helmet is a huge win. (I go on first dates a lot and it matters, okay? :sweat_smile: )

But as with all things you rent, rather than own… They can be taken away from you at any moment, and that’s what has happened.

It’s winter in Latvia right now, and even though we barely have any snow on most days, it looks like scooter companies decided that the cold weather is too harsh for the batteries, and have taken the scooters offline and into storage. Now my only mode of transport is my mountainboard, but god that thing is heavy to drag around, and definitely overkill. (Unless there’s snow. Then it makes sense, but hey, I’d rather be on my bike then for safety.)

This has made me think: Should I just buy a cheap Chinese scooter to own for myself? But what if I want to take it with me? It should be foldable and fit in my backpack, but does that exist? Will it survive the pothole roads of Latvia???

Evaluating my options

Requirements:

  • Can ride in the rain or light snow
  • Battery can survive the cold so that I can lock the PEV outside of work (my office is in a skyscraper these days, and I don’t want to be that guy bringing a bomb into a high-rise)
  • PEV / battery can be chained to a fence pole / locked outside
  • Portable (ideally have it fit in my backpack)
  • Fast to set-up
  • Doesn’t get me wet (mudguards)
  • Lightweight

My options:

  • Electric rollerskates (but would definitely require a helmet)
  • Electric scooter that folds up
  • Esk8 that folds up
  • Esk8 that is thin enough to be carried with my Altar backpack
  • Small onewheel?

In any case, I’m going to need a water-proof bag to put the thing in so that after riding in the rain my backpack isn’t dripping water and mud lol.

Rollerskates

Seem like too small of a form factor to build well + require a helmet + take a while to strap into + you have to charge 2 of them. I think it’s going to be a no.

Scooter

Building my own scooter looks hard. Like, I’d need a welder. All the foldable scooters I found online look like they’d break in under a minute in real world terrain. If anyone knows any good ones, please tell me!

Onewheel

Do these fit into backpacks? Maybe I just need a larger backpack? :sweat_smile: @TheBoardGarage What are your thoughts? :upside_down_face:

Esk8

What options are there in 2025 for mud-guards for boards? I’m thinking the cloudwheels with the rubber layer would be perfect to keep this thing light-weight yet give me grip in wet conditions.

What deck options do I have? Is the folding-deck esk8 still a thing?

I see there’s Linky :eyes:

Traqpod?

And the good-old Board-Up:

Or, if I can find a large enough waterproof bag in the size of a regular esk8, I suppose something like an Evolve bamboo deck and small enclosure would be pretty ideal :upside_down_face:

(I don’t plan on going fast with this thing, would rather have it springy and absorb bad terrain than handle steering perfectly)

Battery

I guess for cold days I need LiFePo4 cells. Any advancements in this area? Surely there’s something better than the A123 cells Boosted used, right? :sweat_smile:

Help brainstorm with me!
Let this be a thread for suggesting ideas, no matter how wacky or stupid :smiley:

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LOL:

Kinda cool, but the setup time seems a bit long. Most of my commutes are under 10 minutes, so 1min extra just to pack/unpack is rough.

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Paging @sevenfloorsdown

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Weatherproof: :white_check_mark:
Folding: :white_check_mark:
:rofl:

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Gonna read though Sevenflorsdown’s build thread :eyes:

:rofl:

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This one actually looks pretty cool. Wonder if its any good IRL

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I wonder what the largest wheels you can put on the BoardUp deck are. Looks like there’s not much clearance with the stock (90mm?) wheels.

Especially if I want to go belt-drive, which I think I do for comfort. Then again, the Cloudwheel rovers do have a hub motor version… At 110mm might not be that bad.

One wheel imo

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On yeah.

I’m about to o post something.

But a Vesc based onewheel would be pretty sweet.

The cold presents some challenges as far as locking outside.

But everything else I think a Pint or growler based build would be killer.

They excell In wet or light snow in my opinion.

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Huh, my current short-board actually nearly fits in my current backpack already. Maybe a bigger bag that can be opened up fully is the best solution

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But also I made this for the neighbor kid.

So if you want want an Esk8 I would give something like this some thought.

I say this because I actually think it has a relatively small and portable form factor.
And it’s totally capable.

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Or maybe just buy this and add MAD wheels.
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One thing about the onewheel though… If you really can’t ride it inside places which you totally should…

Carrying it sucks compared to Esk8.

Even the Pint X size is heavy and cumbersome…

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Oh man, that actually does look really really good…
Need mudguards though :smile:

I think what I should try to find is deck shapes that naturally yield mudguards. I think a wide kick-tail board with narrow trucks might be my best bet.

Raisins turning into @b264 and building tiny boards with large wheels arc, let’s goooo

I wonder what the smallest rubber esk8 wheels are :thinking:

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What is your onewheel experience? Have you ridden a vesced one?

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Nope, only tried the very first original, and felt like it was more of a toy than a serious commute vehicle. The vesc ones look really good, but also seem like a pain to put together… Maybe I’m mistaken tho?

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If you go onewheel vesc is 100% worth the trouble. The vesc wheels I rode all felt wayyyy better under feet than the stock ones to me (I don’t have much onewheel experience though). Not to mention all the tuning options you have

They are all pretty heavy though… And awkward to carry.

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Have you looked at OSUZA bags?

Look at OSUZA bags!

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I think not. There was the K2 3800mah 26650 but gone and was weak n sagged for me. The a123s can be gotten really cheap used (90% capacity) though at like 30 cents a cell with shipping.

I compared weight to energy of a couple cells on batteryhookup a123s were best.

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Linnpower’s new little shortboard looks pretty sweet. Good price too.

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