Promo video features two of our own 
They do not look that impressed
They are young and cool Brad 
That’s a really good idea, and increasing the dead band would smoothly engage the third motor
If one day I manage to get my 4WD board there will be a lot of experimentation around this
Seeing what gets better consumption, all time 4WD vs using your solution, this would be awesome for off road, just accelerate a little more to engage 4WD
It’s actually @Blasto’s solution, I’m just the messenger
. But I’m glad you found it useful. I’m gonna try it soon myself.
Do some tests regarding what’s best, on all time vs increasing dead band vs if possible one way bearing on third motor
I wore the same socks for all of the race days in Colorado. But I had like 10 pairs in the RV.
If the 3rd wheel brings your speed above ~32-33mph, the back emf voltage produced by your @hummieee hubs can easily exceed your pack voltage, potentially leading to an adverse riding condition…
@mmaner @Pedrodemio @deckoz …
- Voltage: 8V – 60V (Safe for 3S to 12S LiPo).
reference: VESC – Open Source ESC | Benjamin's robotics

It’s funny Bajaboard promised this on the first boards, a throttle for both front and rear… It never happened, I never pushed them of why it was missing but I guess this was the original idea - there for when you need it.
the special relativity experts on physics forums blink… ![]()
@professor_shartsis "I’m confused by the image, because in a different thread it was stated:
[physics forums professor ]“the deceleration due to gravity is independent of the outward speed.”
[same physics forums professor ]" Actually, it isn’t; @kimbyd’s point is well taken, that “deceleration” actually affects γv, not v."
@metastable said:
Initial V=299792457.6086310810085m/s
A = cos(motion path angle relative to the vector from the observer to the source at the time when the light is emitted)
B = 299792457.6086310810085
C = C = 299792458m/s
D = cos(angle observed to source) = 0 = cos(90deg)A = -1 * ( ( ( -1 * B ) - ( D * C ) ) / ( C + ( D * B ) ) )
A = -1 * ((( -1 * 299792457.6086310810085 ) -( 0 * 299792458 ) )/ ( 299792458+( 0 * 299792457.6086310810085)))
A = 0.9999999986945338064792 = cos(0.00292766)
0 degrees + 0.00292766 degrees = 0.00292766 degrees blueshifted towards black hole
180 degrees - 0.00292766 degrees = 179.99707234 degrees redshifted away from black hole
0.00292766 / 180 = 0.00162647% of photons gravitationally blueshifted when initial V = 299792457.6086310810085m/s
100-0.00162647= 99.99837353% of photons gravitationally redshifted when initial V = 299792457.6086310810085m/s
^this has implications for cosmology since the main evidence for accelerating expansion comes from redshifts observed proportional with distance.
Well, I am what I eat ![]()
Changeable / swappable battery system, so you could use your own vesc’s and motors, something like a mellow drive, just without the drive and electronics. Batterys only up to 100 or 149wh, so you could have a few and fly with them. And afkorz easy 4 bolt mounting solution for the main case.
What I would like are some mechanical brakes, like the brakeboard but combind with a direct drive unit.
There are that already
Trampa sell them @Trampa
I would prefer something without a second hand controller and cable.
A couple of different topics which were too controversial for physics forums moderators:
I was out skateboarding the other day when I wondered if the efficiency of a vehicle attempting to cover the distance between point A and point B can be improved in the following manner. I put this thread in general relativity section since it involves gravity.
First I will share an example of the equations I would use to calculate the power consumption of a given standard land vehicle at a given speed in a given set of conditions.
peak mechanical power is 10746.218459832w
A = meters per second = XX.XXX
B = drag coefficient = 0.75
C = frontal area = 0.6m^2
D = fluid density of air = 1.225kg/m^3
E = wind drag force in watts
F = sine of 5% slope = sin(atan(5/100)) = 0.04993761694389223373491
G = acceleration of gravity = 9.80655m/s^2
H = vehicle mass in kg = 90.7184kg = 200lb / 2.20462lb/kg
I = mechanical watts required for constant speed up slope with no wind drag
J = mechanical watts required for constant speed up slope including wind drag
K = H * G * F
L = (1/2) * D * C * BE = ((1/2) * D * C * (A^2) * B) * A
I = H * G * A * F
J = E + I
J = (((1/2) * D * C * (A^2) * B) * A) + (H * G * A * F)
J = (1/2) * D * C * B * A^3 + H * G * F * A
J = (L * A^3) + (K * A)
^this can be rearranged to:
A=(sqrt(3) * sqrt(27 * J^2 * L^4 + 4 * K^3 * L^3) + 9 * J * L^2)^(1 / 3) / (2^(1 / 3) * 3^(2 / 3) * L) - ((2 / 3)^(1 / 3) * K) / (sqrt(3) * sqrt(27 * J^2 * L^4 + 4 * K^3 * L^3) + 9 * J * L^2)^(1 / 3)
we know:
J = 10746.218459832w peak mechanical
L = 0.275625 = (1/2) * D * C * B
K = 44.42622815547907982077 = H * G * Ftherefore:
A=(sqrt(3) * sqrt(27 * 10746.218459832^2 * 0.275625^4 + 4 * 44.42622815547907982077^3 * 0.275625^3) + 9 * 10746.218459832 * 0.275625^2)^(1 / 3) / (2^(1 / 3) * 3^(2 / 3) * 0.275625) - ((2 / 3)^(1 / 3) * 44.42622815547907982077) / (sqrt(3) * sqrt(27 * 10746.218459832^2 * 0.275625^4 + 4 * 44.42622815547907982077^3 * 0.275625^3) + 9 * 10746.218459832 * 0.275625^2)^(1 / 3)
A=32.32 meters per second
^therefore the peak velocity up slope is 32.32 meters per second
My question is would the following method potentially improve the energy efficiency of a given vehicle to cover the same distance between 2 points on land in the same time using less energy:
-First a track is constructed which consists of a series of parabolas (think of the trajectory of the “vomit comet” aircraft which is used for zero g astronaut training)
- The vehicle is modified so that, rather than its electric motor directly powering the wheels as in a standard automobile, its electric motor is used to force air into a high pressure tank
-The tank is connected to a compressed air thruster on the back of the vehicle, similarly to a reaction control system on a spacecraft
-The vehicle starts down the track, accelerating from gravity towards the bottom of the first parabola. Once it is almost at the bottom, it fires its compressed air thruster in a very short blast with just enough energy to surpass the next crest, and also in such a way that it eventually reaches point B in the same time as the standard vehicle.
For reference, unless mistaken I believe the parabola riding vehicle is taking advantage of an oberth manuever at the bottom of each parabola.
Will the compressed-air-powered parabola riding vehicle use less energy to reach the same distance in the same time as the standard electric vehicle?
I thought it might work because:
“The gain in efficiency is explained by the Oberth effect , wherein the use of an engine at higher speeds generates greater mechanical energy than use at lower speeds.”
I wasn’t sure if other factors might offset the potential efficiency benefits of this technique.
and:
I am looking at a class of problems in which there is a triple black hole system, all 3 have identical masses, equal initial separation distance, no orbital velocity, and are aligned such that the points which are their geometric centers are all along the same vector. A flashbulb which can fire a single flash uniformly in all directions of uniform photon frequency, is traveling at velocity V=299792457.6086310810085m/s (the same velocity at which an electron would have 10geV kinetic energy to a hovering observer) directly away from the central black hole, along a vector which is perpendicular to the vector which aligns the 3 black holes.
First to calculate the percentage of photons which will lose energy with each meter traveled from gravitational redshift (to a hovering observer) I use the relativistic aberration equation:
https://i.ibb.co/8XLW9pj/aberration.jpg
Relativistic aberration - Wikipedia
rearranged to:
D = (A-(B/C))/(1-((B/C) * A))
rearranged to:
A = cos(motion path angle relative to the vector from the observer to the source at the time when the light is emitted) = cos(E)
B = V = 299792457.6086310810085
C = C = 299792458
D = cos(angle observed to source) = 0 = cos(90deg) = cos(F)
E = motion path angle relative to the vector from the observer to the source at the time when the light is emitted in degrees = 0.00292766 degrees
F = angle observed to source = 90 degrees
G = degrees blueshifted towards black hole = 0.00292766 degrees
H = 179.99707234 = degrees redshifted away from black hole
I = 0.00162647% = % of photons gravitationally blueshifted
J = 99.99837353% = % of photons gravitationally redshiftedrearranged to:
A = -1 * (((-1 * B)-(D * C))/(C+(D * B)))
A = cos(E)
E = G
180 - G = H
G / 180 = I
100 - I = J
^If an electron at rest to the flashbulb has 10geV to a hovering observer, then no less than 99.99837353…% of photons from the flash will initially travel on a vector that is at least 90 degrees or greater from the vector which is directly towards the center of the central black hole.
Visualized it looks approximately like:
https://i.ibb.co/zQ7sTst/1-in-10000.jpg
My question is this:
On average, will the photons that lose a certain amount of energy per meter to a hovering observer in the scenario lose more energy per meter than would otherwise be the case if the 3 black holes had orbital momentum such that they did not infall to collision?
A while ago when I first got into boards I found this guy on facebook who had suggested adding a CVT transmission to his boards. He even bought a ton of custom boards but last I saw he was selling the decks on their own with enclosures on facebook, I think he gave up on the project. Here’s the video from “Voltige Board”
The concept of CVT in esk8 has been thought of, but I don’t see an application, but i don’t see it applied : with electric motors, it will only cause a loss of efficiency and an up in you energy consumption, and with weak acceleration


