The Hondas should be some sort of PEVs lol
IMO those are samples, perhaps from Vapcell who is known for scooping up small lots of different cells for just a quick burst of selling before never having stock of that cell again.
Nkon stocked them the first time on 22.09.2022 so over a month ago.
They were sold out the next day until 08.10.2022 and have been in stock since then.
So vapcell who sent me the last picture was supposed to ship this week and just sent me a a beautifull haiku :
"hi dear, sorry
it will not arrive this batch
we will expect next batch maybe on December."
So I guess I’ll get p42a and that’s it…
Classic Vapcell
at least they didn’t sent me fake ones ^^’
Are these available yet?
AFAIK, no.
You’d have to check stock of the different vendors. Should be soon though.
Was there a price estimate (compared to p42A?)
You’d have to check the vendors. I don’t know the MSRP or if there is one. It will certainly be more expensive than the P42A…a LOT more for a while IMO.
6.6 EUR ex vat was the price they told me a few weeks ago and available around Christmas
18650batterystore Epoch p45b rewraps, supposedly in stock at $8 each.
Is 12.5% more range worth 60% increase in price? talk to me the next time I have to push home the last 2 miles of a ride
Epoch 21700 4500mAh 45A Battery (P45B) (18650batterystore.com)
Agreed.
Anything except a preposterous price difference disappears over the couple of years, at least, that you have the pack. And you get to enjoy the extra performance difference (range and less voltage sag) every day you ride for those couple of years.
IMO, price is pretty far down the list of what should be considered when buying cells.
Not for us budget builders
If price were no object, we’d all be using prismatic Li-Ion packs that can take advantage of every last sq mm of space and have the best energy density.
so probably AU$69 per cell in Australia.
Do they actually beat the cylindrical cells like the P42A though in BOTH range and power?
Not sure about these, as I’m sure there are other factors at play besides battery performance.
But AFAIK custom prismatic cells have the highest energy density of batteries produced today, but also the highest cost.
IF this exist, u know some rich bastard is already building an esk8 with it