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Little bit more progress.


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Then I would assume the wrap is causing it. I notice a smell when removing wraps from brand new cells as well so I wouldnt be alarmed.

That glob, you can try and clean it up. Iā€™d go @ it with a dremel and cutoff wheel and just grind it down. Also while making sure not to get into the cell rim. Some might frown on it but Iā€™m aware of the risks. You do you though.

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As someone mentioned that looks like a spot weld that burned through to the metal. If that went through the metal can then DEFINITELY do not use that cell.

If it did go through there would definitely be a chemical odor but I donā€™t know if what you are smelling is the wrap or lube for the can drawing process or if it might be electrolyte from inside the cell.

As always, we can all make our own choice regarding the risks we take but any damage is unacceptable to the manufacturers so I am forced to recommend not using that cell, or any others, with damage.

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Thanks Mooch! Iā€™ll be doing a more thorough look through these cells before I decide if they seem safe enough

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Where did you get those tesla cells from?

Hello everyone Is there anyway I can turn this 12s3p battery pack into a 12s5p using a parallel connector and a separate battery pack? Also if possible would I be able to get the bms to charge off both packs from one charger? Iā€™m sure someone else has attempted to do this at one point or another.

No. No safe or reliable way to do this.

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Not really a worthwhile idea to pursue, more trouble than itā€™s worth

Probably not in this prepackaged sense

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Its been so long since I used them I donā€™t think we were doing the 3mm thing on the 21700s, but does the same/a similar thing apply to 18650s negative side? Is there an internal spot weld I should avoid welding over? (Or is it so small that iā€™d have to be welding in the exact center which wouldnā€™t make sense anyway?)

@Battery_Mooch or anyone else who knows :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

I mean if you have room on your nickel might as well do a circle anyways yeah?

Thatā€™s what I do, Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s necessary or not, however.

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On the cells in the middle of the P group I suppose a circle is better anyway, but on the edge ones I kinda end up with this weird flap which isnā€™t connected because im avoiding the center of the cells, I guess I was just wondering.

Also Iā€™ve got like 5-6 packs to do so I am trying to be kind of efficient

Yes.
All Li-ion round cells have a spot weld on the inside of the bottom of the can. I donā€™t know if they are all in the center but it makes sense. The weld tip can only pass down through the center opening of the cellā€™s spiral roll.

I would assume that itā€™s at least a 3mm diameter spot for all cells, just to be sure.

Is there ANY way? Yes. Should you? Absolutely not.

What youā€™re asking is possible, but not only is it impractical, it is dangerous.

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My first battery :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:
Will be on Bro w/NKPs
18s5p p45a

Waiting on nickelā€¦

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lipo hookups. 2s3p (well actually 8s3p )

yellow blobs are xt90

left is fully paralleled.
right is 3 series pairs in parallel, but has less wires.

Thoughts?

does fully paralleled matter if the lipos will be charged individually?
is it worse?


How do you see my sketch for a 16s6p battery?

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It seems harder to build than necessary. What are you trying to fit this inside of?

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The molicel p42a 16s6p, a bms (13x66x128mm) and I wish the ubox could fit, but with just the cells and the bms is ok. Inside eboosted haero bro ds

Oh I have this sitting in my shop, Ill try to find you a better config.

But now that I know the enclosure type I think you did create a good layout. Are you planning on using a smart BMS?

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Yeah, daly smart bms with bluetooth, for charge only. Thanks a lot