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I have come to request the wisdom of the battery builders

Currently planning my next build: I’ve got a 12s4p p42a Evo build that I want to upgrade the battery in, to a 12s8p. I’m also in the process of building a 12s4p DD vanguard.

My current plan is to reconfigure the battery from the Evo to fit the vanguard enclosure and have a fresh 12s8p built for the Evo – is this the best plan of action? should I just add more cells to the existing Evo battery to make it 12s8p? I figured mixing new and old cells would be less than ideal

Any advice appreciated

Not just less than ideal but very dangerous. Unless your 4p pack is basically new there’s no way it would be safe to just add more cells.

That’s def the better course of action.

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Correct-a-mundo.

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thx y’all, glad to know I had the right idea. the 12s4p has 10 or so cycles so it’s not the oldest but probably still best not to mix cells

I mean, that’s basically a new pack but I’d still go with your plan. Breaking down the pack to add more cells just isn’t worth the trouble. It’s so much work and wrought w danger.

What needs to happen to the 4p to put it into the other board?

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going from an eboosted evo SS enclosure to an eboosted vanguard 12s3p, so 1 less pack, and a very different configuration. basically has to be redone as I understand it. person who is building my new battery is doing the reconfig as well

Hello, a friend had got a new Hurricaine and basically his maiden voyage was at esk8 con. Several times the power would just cut off. He had some other battery with him. Swapped it out and all was good. He ended up getting a new battery from Meepo and no problems. I offered to take a look at the battery/ esc for him hoping to see something obvious. I opened her up I did not see anything yet. I did not take it apart apart just enough for a basic visual. Battery is reading 44.7V. Still have to hookup a meter and twist it a bit to see if voltage changes. Here are some pics.
Looks like the whole thing may be welded with copper. Balance wires overlap and are thin as shit and main leads are


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No that would actually be one less cell in each parallel group. Also a lot of work. He’s basically going to have to tear the whole pack apart in any case.

Is the person doing the work a member of the forum?

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sorry, yeah, as you can see I’m not super familiar with the terms haha. and no I don’t think they’re on the forum - it’s a local friend of mine… but yeah, it’s gonna be a lot of work

All good bro. I’d suggest you read the intro to batteries thread. It’s not super long and will give you a cursory understanding of the foundational stuff. Good place to start:

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for reference these are some pics I have of the battery… seems like good work, yeah? been running great and it seems like she puts a lot of care in

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Does anyone have any suggestions to test this Hurricane battery? I did not check voltage of the individual P groups yet. I was hoping not to have to take it further apart but it looks like I have to. I was thinking if P groups check out and all welds look good maybe just replace the BMS and bypass it.
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Here is the original BMS

The busbars :exploding_head:

Would be curious to see a full teardown :sweat_smile:

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You’ll be able to check individual cell voltages by very carefully measuring those exposed pins with your multimeter

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Yall must have steadier hands than me. I know if I tried that it would 100% end with a burnt balance lead if not worse.

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Lol if you slip, there’s every chance that you’ll cook some bms components. Not for the faint hearted, that’s for sure

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Thank you! I will give it a go. I’ll actually wrap thin wire around a pin with some heatshrink and wrap other end of the wire to the meter probe end and still use a lighted magnify glass lol. Yes dont want sparks.

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Could balance leads be mixed up. These are the readings starting frim the right. Double checked they’re correct

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A better picture of the bus bars. I have to take this apart some more. I looks like there is some kingd of thick metal tabs between the spacers