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[MoeStooge]

More Untruth

@JaysTCB

Stooge started the SOS (Southern California outlaw series) with several other people who had racing in mind. But soon turned into a stooge only event catered around his boards for uphill racing.

The purpose of SOS was to build enthusiasm for the sport, build rider confidence and skill.
We did not exclude anyone at anytime. Participants boards were pretty diverse.
SOS-1 had a urethane class
SOS-2 points was won by a Phychotiller Rider

More Falsehood

@JaysTCB

Stooge started Intro to Speed which was also catered around his boards winning on short track in Torrance. watch the video. https://youtu.be/oggaSnTztL4

Then Mario (Stooge team Rider) continued Intro 2 Speed. And even though Moe originally set up this event for his boards to make podium every time. Mario made it his own and did something amazing by turning it into a great place for all of us to race and learn from each other.

Intro 2 Speed is solely a Marion Chacon III creation. Started in Long Beach California. What a great tool for building skills that anyone with any board can benefit from.

More Lies

@JaysTCB

Maryhill is not a Stooge skate event, But Stooge piggybacked it to race uphill. And on several times he only had his boards on the hill to make podium.

Competition at Mary hill was open to every one, put on by the Mary hill Ratz club it was with a diverse group of boards, from DIY to Production

E-Board Up Hill Racing 4/23/22 Mary Hill Ratz

@JaysTCB

The T-race was setup by David Bond. A long time Stooge rider who has done a lot of R&D for Stooge with zero or little credit. David is a really cool person who stooge has been able to use and Capitalize on.

Let @davidbonde speak for himself on this.

Absolutely Ridiculous Lies

@JaysTCB

The Vegas esk8con… stooge also had his hand in. But after loosing on Concrete. He was able to get the track changed up to asphalt the year after. Because that’s Where his boards have the best results And he can podium.

As if M-Boards cant think for themselves. For esk8con1 Morgan Brady P-1 in the pro class on a V-5 is a win. On his own merit and ticket. We facilitated the racing program and had no hand in choosing the venue for this or any other year of esk8con

@JaysTCB

The base plates were actually designed by yours truly for downhill. I designed them so that they would fit on any top mount deck. So it’s not like he really reinvented the wheel there. The wheels are Bishop Racing Products for RC cars. That he was able to have Bishop change for eSk8. But not his initial idea or product.

@JaysTCB

had a lot of fun racing eSk8, Stooge had a unique 3-link truck design that I wanted to try out on my downhill board. So I designed and manufactured several aluminum baseplate ideas that were a mix of me modifying his 3-link hanger with downhill RKP baseplate geometry. That’s where I got the geometry for axle location to deck mounting holes, and ride height, I also narrowed up the 3link rodend location for inner wheel clearance on downhill urethane skate wheels. I knew I wanted those proven RKP dimensions because I wanted these trucks to be able to fit on any top mount downhill skateboard. Then Stooge started selling them as his own. Oh well. Life moves on.

May 2018 we were working with Riptide on bushings for Down Hill trucks. Way before we first met Jason

3-link

The Jason prototypes here were Made to fit the parts from My DH truck design, using the pick up points from my V-3 raceboard design.

From these plates I gave Jason instruction for the changes that are in the current design baseplate. 1) to accommodate an interchangeable baseplate bracket that could be used for our E-board design Hanger and changed out to our short rod DH Design. I also instructed a set back change for the Carrier heim. We were very pleased with the work he put in the baseplate development. While it is unfortunate that Jason does not feel that he has been given enough credit for his work on the CNC baseplate design, we feel that we have done all we are willing to do at this point to appease his sense of entitlement. After Jason made the CNC program he ran a small test batch from his work place and then handed the program over to SRB for outside production. It is a great baseplate.

We have been in cooperation and have had a great relationship with BRP. Both the original owner and the current owners. They are a Genuine All-American company and have made a fantastic product from our R&D collaboration. I can’t be more proud of what took us 5+ years of development with them to accomplish.

And the lies continue:

@JaysTCB

Then several years later, Evolve announced the World Cup in Carlsbad. I knew I wanted to race and started building a board. It was a fun experience. I got to meet several people who remembered me from the forums and they thanked me for helping them out. One of which was Stooge who was still using the same basic r/c setup I told him about years before. That was cool to see.

I had never made or had any correspondence or contact with Jason prior to the World cup wild card race in Carlsbad, Ca Aug 2018. The V3 was in service and raced by Luke Belz and the V2 by myself and J Morgan on the Embers44. All on R/C electronics. Out of 52 competitors over 5 heats both the V2 and V3 made the finals and Luke on the fwd V-3 held the track record.

The Racers Room

@JaysTCB

So I gave him one to try out. He said he liked it and it really changed his riding for the better. So we ended up putting them on every flat race board stooge made up to the V5

The V-2 and V-3 flat decks were fitted with the wedge. The V-4 had the heel drop incorperated into the design.

[JaysTCB]

NO. Stooge
I designed and made both CNC base plates To work With stooge three link truck hangers. They were Originally for me because I wanted to try some three links on my downhill boards. The second version that I came up with is what he is telling everybody was is his own design. And that design is what he’s selling to everybody today With no credit to myself.
After I did all the testing. I ended up making him two orders of 20 base plates so he can use my design to sell eSk8 trucks. Because let’s be honest here. The sheet metal base plates that he was previously using with a welded nut on them looked like horrible…
And after he sold the first couple Production runs. I told him that he can have a Machine Shop near him make them And that I didn’t really mind because I didn’t have the time to do it for him anymore. But keep in mind that the design is not his. He only claims it as his.

Then he tries to discredit me online. But every time he gets in one of these conversations with me. A little bit more of the truth comes out… originally, he said, I had nothing to do with stooge or the three links. Then he said I had some hing to do with The first prototype base plate. Now he’s saying that I made both base plates… So thank you stooge for finally acknowledging some more Of my involvement. I would like to see you come up with your own design base plate That’s as good if not better than what’s currently out there.

[Tasventouras]

[quote=“JaysTCB, post:287, topic:47099”]
I say, if somebody else out there is gonna make another three link truck. Bring It to the races.

Now this will wholeheartedly agree on

[MoeStooge]

@JaysTCB

So to say that you’ve never had a problem With your products is an understatement.

We have never made this statement.

We appreciate everyone who has raced for us and given feedback. What i am about to say gives me no pleasure.

@JaysTCB is an ex house rider who was caught cheating at AVS may 2021.

2023 Western USA Esk8 Racing

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We had a gentlemans agreement to run the SRB boards at 80% power to equal the top speeds for other competitors. Jay couldnt qualify the v3 for the pro class so he turned the power up to podium with the sportsmans. Only after he was caught and called out did he recuse himself from the podium.

2023 Western USA Esk8 Racing

That is unfortunate but you are a good man and a great sportsman for saying something. regardless thank you for all your effort at avs Saturday and your passion for pushing this sport to where we are today. I know that you will only continue to push the boundaries of what people ever thought was possible and we all look forward to whatever you do in the future!

AVS 2021 May 9 - Sportsman

Later that year 2021 at the Bako-Uphill we were well into V-5 development. Jay said he was having electrical issues with his V-5 then handed it to a 14 yr old and let him take an uphill test run on-it. I was super pissed, said a few words, Jason said he was done and I raced it in his place. Mary hill was next. Jasons spot was already paid for but I wasnt expecting him. Guess who showed up to race. I setup the board for Jason. 1/2hr before the start he left the property. Luckily Dennis Manougian broke his board and ran the board for us.
Few months went by and I dropped by the downhill race at the Dump rd to let Jason know i wanted him to keep racing, just not for SRB any more. I gave him a new rolling V-5 to race and parted way.
This guy has been spreading his libelous hate of SRB on the forum, on FB on Instagram everyplace we use social media. I used to feel bad for him. Ridding J from our stable should have happened the day he was caught cheating. That was my mistake. This is why he has hate. Well this is unfortunately who he is.

@JaysTCB

After Stooge, I took a v5 chassis and modified it into everything I wanted out of a board. I gave it a larger belly pan for my batteries and esc, I moved the axles down for more road clearance to run smaller wheels, I added W concave into the deck lid, I shortened the axles four inche

J could have scratch built a board more easily than destroying #011

[JaysTCB]

HA HA. That’s funny. Still trying to discredit people huh.
Caught cheating…by who
It was just a mistake that happened by accident that I made right by withdrawing myself the race.
Somewhere on this forum is a post all about it. I was changing settings on practice runs trying to get use to riding again. Then got sidetracked dialing in my setup, setting up lei’s SRB board for Dash. And in between that, charging, setting up the track, and everything else that went along with that day i ended up on a board with a little extra gittyup. Once I realized that I forget to readjust the board. I withdrew myself from the race and passed down my 2nd place win. As far as being mad that I did not make pro class time. That’s BS. I was there to ride. Have fun and support stooge Racing. At that particular time. I was not riding every day. And knew that I was not the fastest person on the track. So it did not really matter to me.

The truth leading up to Maryhill Is a little darker, though…
Stooge got upset because I did not want to continue to make free parts for him. So he started doing stupid shit like changing the set up on my board the day of the race, and in some cases Minutes before the actual race… Whether it was changing out the remote. Trying out new Torque limiting settings, punch control, Throttle curve. Adding Brakes to the ESC. Or different bushing tightness. Hell one day he setup the board to drive in reverse instead of forward. Maybe in his mind. It was constant improvement. But for me as eraser. You don’t do that to people the day of the race. Racers need time to get acclimated to their boards.

The race before Maryhill We were in Bakersfield. And the night before the race. Stooge spent setting up a new board For me that I did not want… And when I tried to tell him on a test run that the board was cutting out. He just told me that I didn’t know what I was talking about and didn’t know how to ride your boards because you had better riders That don’t have problems with his set ups. So I told him to kick bricks at Bakersfield and I raced downhill instead.

As far as Maryhill goes. After I paid for my ticket. Stooge insisted that he pay me back for that… I said fine. And I showed up Saturday morning to Race. He ignored me And treated me like I was a redheaded, stepchild that he didn’t want there. he even told me that he didn’t even have a board for me to ride. And that he might be able to piece together something for me But he didn’t know. Basically trying to make me feel like I was unwanted and that he was going out of his way to do something nice for me… It wasn’t until I pulled out my Psychotiller. That he decided to put a board together for me.

Stooge… do you think that I didn’t know that after I did a quick test ride on that board you put together for me. That you went in my tent and pulled out my Psychotiller and stood on it and said fucking Psychotiller.

I love Maryhill and all my skate Family. But After I came back and was told what you did. I was like… you know what… I don’t need this… So I gave you your board that you turned down to 60% for me to ride. And I got my car and drove 18 hours home.

As far as the base plates, I designed that off of my own creativity. Then you built a bracket to fit it and incorporated your hanger to it. I rode the hell out of it. And because of parts available I had to move the heim hole back to make everything work without having to order new parts. Now you moved the heim hole forward for more motor clearance. That revision change does not mean you designed the initial product. All you did was poke another hole in it to give people more options.

It’s kind of like if I bought a Vehicle that I didn’t like. I can’t just put my stickers over that brand and tell the world that I created a new car. That car was already existing. You just modified it.

All I wanted was credit where credit was owed.

[DerelictRobot]

I like turtles.

[SquishyCat]

Trains are pretty cool too

[glyphiks]

Francis bourgeois sees 56051

[BillGordon]

@SquishyCat

Trains are pretty cool too

So are horses.

[Battery_Mooch]

Turtles on a horse watching trains is cool too

[JaysTCB]

If that’s what happened. Than I must have been misinformed, and retract my previous statements.

[RipTideSports]

All of this is a waste of time and effort and is in reality going no where except for pleasing trolls that love drama and eat a lot of popcorn.

If you do not feel appreciated, welcome to life as we know it. Contributing to someone else’s dream is rarely gratifying even if it is appreciated and acknowledged.

You need to follow your own dream.

You cannot change the past or the present, all you have left is the future. I am friends with both of you and I would like to keep it that way. If racing is your thing, this should be decided there. If not, please just let it go and move on with life, it is too precious to waste on things like this…

[JaysTCB]

Well said Brad. Thank you for your kind words. I agree with you, and I’m willing to put all this behind me.

[RipTideSports]

@JaysTCB

Well said Brad. Thank you for your kind words. I agree with you, and I’m willing to put all this behind me.

Jason, you just made my day, thank you!

[cherryflavouredpez]

Anyone sealed a Super Spine belly pan on here? Looking to at least keep dust out, some kind of splash-proofing would be good - any advice would be nice

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[glyphiks]

Hopes and dreams only get you so far I guess

[cherryflavouredpez]

I got some suggestions of SRB riders on FB, and one of the guys used some strips of foam along the sides, but nothing substantial at the front and back…

[sugandese]

Cut a gasket from those bunnings adhesive backed foam pads. Or even the expansion joint stuff.

[Ac53n]

If you had the dims you could potentially 3d print a shim to sit against the deck and then have some foam or rubber gasket thats thinner up against the enclosure. TPU would be a good choice there, ive been experimenting with it for a couple personal projects.

[Swol_Moon]

You took the words right out of my mouth. I think this would be a great idea, just have the TPU piece mounted to the deck so it “hugs” the enclosure when it gets mounted.