Some Reporting Issues with Vesc Wand (Under investigation)

@Trampa
Please consider adding an option to install an external antenna for us folks who has CF deck.

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You can get one of those and flash the FW on. SWD Prog…
When I make a new transceiver, I will have a look which modules are available that have such an option.

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Thank you.

I thought he has his own remote project on the boil…

What does that have anything to do with the situation? No derailling the thread here

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Just curious.
He can send the remote back, we will fix it for him.

That is how you handled the other throttle issues?

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Customers get a return label and we provide a new device.

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I really do think the metal near the antenna within the wand is a big part of the issue. It’s eating a lot of the signal strength. In my testing I get about twice the range with the case off. I’m going to design up a 3d printed replacement as the tradeoffs for having metal case vs. Less reliable wireless link are a no brainer for me.

@Trampa yeah the throttle definitely arrived defective. I was able to repair it by reflowing the pot somehow (was going to depopulate and replace but then after hot air reflow it fixed itself, unclear as to why). I think my order was second batch? I pre-ordered after the first set of orders shipped and no units available. The pot always read correctly but the spring in the throttle would randomly disengage. QC could use a look there, but I think the thumbstick is fine now. Still feels a bit chinsy for my blood, this style pot is same thing used in nano-x and most people don’t love it.

Sorry been planning to make up a vid to show some of this but it turns out I’m really busy all the time :sweat_smile:. I’m not the best source for independent review anyways.

Overall I think the remote is really cool, just would love to see a more thought out solution in the spaces of metal near antenna, thumbstick pot, and disposable batteries. It’s so close to being a really easy reccomendation.

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Ha me too, I guess it’s the worst combo for wands now huh

No guarantees, but if it disconnects I will know.

Please don’t take everything as attacks. Like I said before I even buy from trampa rather than buy within US because I like your products and fast shipping. I really want wand to be successful because there is no mass production of good remote with geometry display.

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Lol, I am hardly a tramp fanboy only thing I even bought from them were gummies and I hated those as well. I am not defending trampa, in fact I called out WAND as unreliable product in the original thread. So really you are the only one making baseless accusations like a “fanboy” here .All I am saying is don’t make this a two person fight between frank and mmaner.

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i’m seeing a lot of mention of CF and metal between receivers and transmitters. Its kind of disturbing.

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Y’all please don’t risk it with this remote rn🥺 it’s not worth getting hurt. There are other options with no disconnects

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Is there anyone actually experiencing disconnects with the receiver not mounted inside a metal or carbon fiber enclosure? I thought that was the only issue, and that would be expected.

If it’s just because a receiver was mounted inside a carbon fiber box we need not be alarmist.

I think we need more information on this before we jump to any conclusions. I’ll dig in and try to post some actual data from testing this weekend.

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Is it an option to design the wand like how apple design the antennas on their Iphone? This seems like a good tradeoff from an esthetic design and a practicality design.

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I think a simple ruler of thumb is…

If a PPM remote works without fail and another remote type doesn’t, assuming there same board and build and RX location, then the fault lies with the new remote.

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Never forget.

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Tend to agree here, we should be moving in a forward direction not embracing something that is more easily thwarted by reciever placement etc. My guess would be the combo between CF case and metal near antenna just ends up eating to much of link budget between trancievers in certain orientations. One or the other might be fine but together the dropouts ensue.

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I think this is a fair metric to test against.

Luckily, I’ve got carbon fiber, metal, carbon composite, and abs enclosures on hand to test against. And about 8 different remotes including the wand.

We are also seeing a lot of kneejerk commentary and reaction without data being presented, so I’m trying to find middle ground here.

Something not working quite as well as the other is not the same as one being critically flawed. Let’s see what the real world performance looks like with some data to back it.

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