I no say this motor is best motor for all. Is good motor which can be using for any truck. Is not most powerful and is no need for being. Is reliable motor can be.
I always open and honest to friend. Is no nice for say I not.
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No one said this Jeff, people are just bored and waiting for your reply.
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I corrected my posts in order to amend as promised.
Language barrier, please continue the good work man.
I know to recognize when I also do mistakes.
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I just check this morning while drink tea is 6am here and I see so many message. So many word. 
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Would heat help bend even thicker copper wire? Might be a dumb question (Iāve never tried heating copper to bend it, so I donāt know how hard / hot that would be), but maybe with a torch and oven mitts you could? 
Hopefully one of the @moderators can move this copper winding discussion to a different topic. Sorry for cluttering up your thread 
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No need. Itās soft. That kinda heat would damage insulation. Iām sure even thicker could be gotten on. U can even stretch it tied to the doorknob when 17 awg with maybe 35 lbs force. Thatās ok.
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Is possible for this motor to using thicker copper but factory already take many time for winding motor by hand. We think this can be ok for is using design now.
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Now thatās power move, I concede I said what else do you want 
Approx how much time for one motor winding btw? With your current strands.
I donāt understanding.
For time is now taking too long for this. I need checking exact time. But my production engineer already working with factory to make improve for efficient making.
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I challenge them to a race.
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I register this as a formal race request between @jeffwuneo hubs and @hummieee hubs, winner takes all.
@Brenternet @Bret please confirm 
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Hmmā¦ Iām slightly confused where the confusion isā¦
Iām under the impression that the 14 awg is with reference to these final three windings.
The wire used to make up those final cables doesnāt matter - as long as the cross sectional area is equivalt to 14AWG in the end.
I donāt see how you could think the insides of a motor could be āsilicone wireā - silicone wire, which we know hobby wise, is just high strand counts of
0.08mm in dia tinned copper with silicone insulation. This chart may help
In shortā¦ heās making AWG area equivalent wire out of whatever dia enamel coated wire that he uses. Then for the phase leads we terminate/see outside of the motor can he solders on 14AWG silicone wire to that 14AWG enamel wire creation.
Am I right or totally wrongā¦
Either way the cookie crumblesā¦ I bet Jeff probably regrets working with us sometimes 
Too many skateboard nerds to handle
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Iām super tacky when it comes to core detail, since it affects performance as well.
As Iāve seen few examples of thick copper wire done properly, just check the few posts above, I insta trigger if I smell fishy cause multistrand thin wiring aināt one thick equivalent wire.
But as stated, I misunderstood Jeffās post, it was never stated 14awg copper. So all clear for me.
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@Bindings_McGee Remember if itās Delta wound, the output wire is where you connect the beginning and end of two of the phases. So the output phase wires look twice as thick as the actual windings. So unless itās WYE wound, the windings are half of those output phase wires
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but the mellow stator is Not build in one piece. It is assembled after doing the windings. Every āarmā of the stator is a single unit.
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bet 10 dollars on hummies have more torque 
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Hummie mentioned a while ago he thought these motors would do well wound LRK ā¦
@jeffwuneo keep up the good work bud. Ima get in on the next batch hopefully
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Didnāt know that, thatās actually super clever 
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Super clever if it doesnāt fall apart. I guess they havenāt. Iāve heard of such a thing falling apart. Iād like to see exactly how they assemble it. it allows more copper and also thatās how they get really low cogging torque and their easy coasting which Iām envious off. Cogging torque is a loss powered and more so unpowered
If wound wye thereās only one circuit and with delta thereās two. With two you can have slight variation between them and an inefficiency as they are forced to balance.
Lrk has a slightly higher magnetic circuit efficiency dubbed āwinding factorā. But in winding every other tooth you end up with more wire wasted on the āend turnsā, the wire sticking off the end horizontally which is kinda wasted wire, so lrk more ideal for long motors than pancake flat type.
Maybe we can move the thread.
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