Revel at the "brand" new competitor in the direct drive Esk8 race!


Kegel FTW

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I’m in strong agreement with you on your 4WD opinions. 4WD would be much more up to the task. However, a Determined 2WD Revel kit owner might still be able to make it work by suplimenting the battery. I suspect a 2WD Revel Kit with a massive booster battery attached to the front might do ok with AT wheels

Even with 4WD, I think a booster battery might help alot given how much range I understand is lost with AT wheels.

I think we should be asking Jason for a 90KV motor option/price. I bet that would be the best AT set-up for the Revel Kit.

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oops…

So if 6 inch wheels are too much for a TB 75kv motor, then it might also be bad for a Revel kit. Certaily for 2WD but maybe also for 4WD.

@BillGordon do you happen to know if TB 75KV issues with 6 inch wheels was 2WD only or also 4WD?

Based on my personal experience cloudwheels are probably best on a long board 4wd revel board set up.

They smoothed out rough roads but still weren’t as smooth as 74a 90mm tb wheels on a decent road plus the performance took a noticeable hit.

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Hi there, do you know how to chage rhe revel kit adapter to the orangatang? The nut on the axel stops the adapter from being able to sit in properly

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I have a question about the revel kit : is it waterproof ? Like let’s say an Exway X1-pro with hubs ? I need a board for rain, and I’d like to be able to try Harfang wheels on it, wich the hubs can’t …

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Orangatangs mean the Kegel Core adapter. Remove the 4 small screws to be able to remove the existing Abec Core adapter. Replace the 4 small screws - and you’re done - its in the manual i think

Exway had a video go viral with a rider going through a flooded road… That said, exway is NOT water"proof", neither is the revel kit. A skateboard is low to the ground and a puddle quickly covers every slight crack with water.

Water ruins bearings, brings dirt into motors, damages wooden boards et cetera. Is it water resistant? Yes. Water PROOF? it is an all electric light weight vehicle that is close to the ground… No it cannot be.

The electronics are shielded, everything is fairly water tight. It is not as delicate as something like the V1 Boosted board or a Landwheel (a drive I personally have) the revel kit is advertised as water resistant, and they have gone to great lengths to keep it from breaking.

Unlike the exway, revel kit has swappable batteries. The terminals on the kit and the batteries are exposed to potential moisture that can enter the batteries and or kit. Lithium ion batteries do not play nice with water, it can cause sudden voltage drops that lead to power offs and potentially damaged batteries.

You can help water “proof” it by sealing up the edge of your batteries, permanently cover your USB port if you don’t use it. Either way I don’t recommend riding any board in the rain without extreme care and caution. Make sure your drive and batteries are stored dry and open it up after, let it air out. Look for any cracks or seems that let in water.

That said, a light drizzle here and there or slightly damp roads should not completely ruin your board if you take care of it, dry it, take it apart sometimes and keep it tiptop.

TL;DR:
NO.

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Shoot your question to @revel_flo via email support on revel website, he rarely comes here to check

@BearBoi

Nice answer man! You nailed it.

@JsDenton
If you need a waterproof board, get a onewheel and ride at a safe margin below it’s actual top speed and ride within your own skill limitations, adjusting for road quality. The are amazing machines but they are high risk if you attempt to ride at longboard speeds.

The idea of siliconing the Revel kit battery in to place would likely result in an above average water resistance for the battery and electronics. Additional areas could also be treated wiht a sealant including the motor wire entrance and the joint between the the electronics shell. If you did those things, the revel kit shell and battery would border on waterproof.

Another idea would be to tape off the power button and charging port and then dip the enitre drive and battery in liquid vinyl tool dip.

A friend of mine in ottawa uses grey vinyl tool dip to seal targeted areas of his esk8.

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You could do somethign similar by disassembeling the battery and treating key areas of the interior with a pour of vinyl dip. The Revel kit is very easy to disassemble and tinker with.

But even if you did various additional waterproofing combinations of the battery and electronics enclosure, wheel bearings and motor bearings would still be vunlerable to rust and water.

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So for anyone who’s thinking about larger wheels, I just wanted to give you a heads up that while this seem to be a good fit with the extended range batteries, the travel sized batteries do not seem to mix well with larger wheels. I get vibration alerts on the middle two bars (long before I reach the last bar. I tried two travel bateries–mounted on my 4WD-- with 110 mm TB wheels.

They just don’t have the cranking amps to cope with turning the larger diameter wheels. I almost broke one of the travel batteries today by doing the opposite of what I recommend (ignoring a few vibration alerts to make it home). The voltage on one of my batteries was too low to take a charge. An hour later its taking a charge – so i may have dodged a broken battery.

Also, the range with travel batteries and 110mm wheels is very poor – just a few times around the neighborhood.

So I hope that info helps you make some wheel choices or to order the right batteries for your needs.

Also, reduced range with larger wheels is not unique to the revel kit. It is something that affects just about every esk8. But super big wheels with extra small batteries seem to be a poor combination.

In hind sight, the risk of damaging the battery does not surprise me. I remember thare was a big spike failed boosted board batteries when riders started mounting larger wheels on boosted boards. Someone in Ottawa riders mounted 100 mm wheels on their BB and killed the battery the same day. I saw anotehr example of the same thing happen on a Youtube review.

So big wheels need big batteries.

It makes me really question how realistic it would be to mount 6 inch wheels on a 4WD kit. Eben wiht two extended range battereis, six inch wheels could result in a short range battery killer.

I think adding 6 inch wheels to a Revel Kit would require a giant booster battery mounted between the two revel drives. That’s my guess.

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Pictures?

Gear / belt drive ratios compensate for this… without having to up the power - allowing for greater torque for larger wheels - so direct drives will be limiting in that sense. And it also depends on the strength of the motors themselves. Some motors are created and wounded better than others.

Holes are different sizes, so it doesnt go over the nut, abec adapter fits on great tho

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Looks like revel factory supplied you with the wrong adapter dude… get in touch with them

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@Sharneaustin
Picture is worth a thousand words. The latest production run has new larger motors. The kegel adapters you are holding look like they might fit the first and second production run. That’s unfortunate. Email Flo and he should help you out.

No chance you mixed them up with another project eh? The adapter you are holding came straight out of the Revel kit box? Sorry for asking.

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Yea, this is my first direct drive board, only had hub boards in the past, so havnt got any other adapters in the house lol

If you cant wait for the replacements to arrive, wonder what happens if you drill the hole bigger to fit - no guarantees on the structural integrity though… get the replacements set to deliver first before attempting this

Yea, i was thinking that might be my only option. At least abec fits well and wheels provided are very decent

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