This is the problem. It’s a new company, I like the owners, we all know what is safe, they write it on a hammer and hit us on the head with it.
I don’t understand, 3 guys on the crew and my Mexican American friend I got hired. The foreman has his brother in the trenches, last week it was a manhole with no sniffer, blower or rescue tripod. If gas takes you, I’ll die saving you
I can feel the D 10 dozer shaking the ground 300’ away. I’m on a 110 year old MAN MADE island, in earthquake country. What could go wrong. Our rules are written in blood and dead workers.
I’m frustrated and embarrassed
Exactly, once you fire that thing up everything shakes. That macho bullshit attitude needs to take a back seat when it comes to situations like this. Glad you spoke up about it.
My industry has grown leaps and bounds in professionalism and safety. We have women and minorities. I for one don’t want to go back to 1996 when I started. It was insane, disrespectful, unprofessional.
I spend50 hours a week building infrastructure, I take pride in it, I don’t care to be embarrassed at this point in my career.
I don’t want to watch someone else die in my career.
And even if they’re fine and nothing happens, what about next time? Or even worse, the next guy who gets in because the boss says “are you scared, those guys did it?” They might not realize it but anyone getting in that trench is bringing all of us down with them. Wouldn’t cost that much time or money to have you bench it for them. The cost would be nothing compared to a death or injury.
Unfortunately benching is not even a legal option. I’m in sugar sand with stratification ( slide planes) I’m very skilled at crossing trenches with a hoe, even ey2 shoring jacks and 2 8x 10 steel plates, using the boom to reduce the ground pressure, I can cross 4 times maximum. It’s class c soil ( the worst) pre disturbed with vibration, only thing worse is straight up mud. It doesn’t get much more scetchy
And if I’m scared, then you should be too, if we are exceeding my limit, then insanity is surely at hand. I’m stressed and frustrated
That’s terrifying. You already tried being reasonable. Kind of surprised the foreman didn’t listen since he’s personally liable if something happens. I wonder how long it takes OSHA to show up if someone calls.
Osha is mostly a post incident agency. 4 people in the hospital or 1 death will get them on site and anything short of that they don’t have the resources (budget) to do more. The rules are written in blood, but it’s the blood of laborers - unless someone rich or connected is hurt or it makes the news there won’t be much of any response, it will just be noted down and recorded.
Class c soil, and more than a couple feet down and you could sneeze and it’ll collapse. Getting entombed is no joke, i do some dangerous shit and trenches and confined spaces scare the shit out of me. Blower or i don’t go in - work it from the top or it gets shoring or is stepped and someone competent green tags it. Ive seen enough to know better, the survivor benefits are inadequate.
I’ve seen them show up to one project in my 15 years. They were called to the site for safety violations and actually showed up. The GC (Gilbane) must have gotten wind of it though because they fixed their bullshit the day before OSHA showed up. The only shop that got fined was the one I was working for, someone stole one of our led temp lamps from the stringer .
There’s probably an element of luck getting them to show up. It’s 100% up to the individual to refuse unsafe conditions.
Ah yes, I refuse to be the competent person of record here. I have the training and certifications,SOO! I’d have to cite it all if I did the paperwork, ah no thanks.
Is it not a bit beyond the realm of hub motors and only like the ones that use a gear ratio anyway? Also I’m curious is there a known reason why or is it a bit of a mystery and there might be some tuning improvements.
I wish it was good for 26S it would have been perfect for a friend of mine.
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