Ownboard Zeus Discussion

I also searched for hours for a 13 or 14 tooth motor pulley for my Zeus. 10mm D shaft, 5m belt, 15mm wide. Finally found them at Electric Scooter Parts. Ordered a pair of 13’s, $26 shipped. Had to drill and tap my own set screw (10-24 drill bit and tap home depot, and shorten a pair of 10-24 set screws.) Used the 275 belt. Just what I wanted, with 13:44 on the 97mm urethanes top speed is 26-27, torquey, better braking, has to be better range too. Have about 100 miles on this setup. 13:44 with 120 clouds is 32 mph. Lot of steep hills here, I’m 180 lbs all up. Lots of full throttle up hills, full throttle out of corners, top speed on straights, some mellow carving, I get about 26 miles and come home with 2 bars of battery left, maybe 25-35% left.

wow nice! I really wanted a 14T pulley and couldn’t find any.

old esc or the updated one?

I geared my Zeus 13 : 44 with proper slack in the belts (275’s) and have no slippage issues. Using the 97mm urethanes.Top speed is 26-27. Improved braking, torque, and maybe a little better range. Did a 3+ hour, 40.3 mile ride all in speed level 1on a long paved bike path at 15 mph just for fun and testing range limits, won’t do that again, lol. Sunny and 70°, mostly flat, some hills, starts and stops. Best guess I finished with like 8% battery left. With 13:44 in speed #1 it can still climb a moderately steep hill. My weight plus gear about 180.

I ordered my board Dec 31, I’m guessing the updated esc ? I can’t remember what the difference was

Must be the updated esc. I mean, I’m a noob, but it still seems stop pretty good even stopping on a steep decline. With 13:44 on the 97’s full braking will lock up the tires at 15 mph.

I’m doing a top mount battery to parallel with the pack in the board, parts arriving soon. Ordered a 48volt (13s of 18650) 14 ah pack (672 watt hour) from Amazon plus adapters and 10 gauge extension cables. I’m into the long rides. Instead of 25 miles of hard riding full throttle up steep hills and out of corners, the math says I’ll get 43 miles. At least I’ll have full power for longer, less sag.

Is it a 48v/54.6v pack?

Also what pack is it specifically, got a link?

18650 batts are pretty much done. Stay clear of them if you want longevity and punch. 21700 should be the standard now.

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Lol I mean he has somewhat of a point

The only time I would use 18650’s now is in space constrained builds

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yeah but those two things arent reasons that you should stay away from 18650s.

Say what you will and you know it is the truth. Keep making fun of others with silly videos.

Uh salty much??

I’m sorry…do you have ANY idea who you’re talking to?

Look at the title. You think that comes easy?

Listen Mr. C-4 Lovin, don’t tell me what the truth is. I AM THE TRUTH.

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In my opinion your “truth” is subjective and over-generalized. A couple of thoughts…

  • 18650’s offer packaging and sizing opportunities you cannot get with the larger 21700 cell. That makes the 21700 a terrible or impossible-to-use choice for some setups.
  • The 18650 Samsung 20S has more “punch” (runs at a higher voltage) than any round li-ion cell other than the 21700 Samsung 30S. That means it has more punch than dozens and dozens of 21700’s.
  • The 18650 Molicel P26A is one of the best all-around standard li-ion cells you can buy in any size. It can offer longer run time than a very large number of 21700’s.
  • Can you get higher capacity with some 21700’s? Of course, it’s a larger cell. But I can use an even larger setup, two 18650’s, and totally blow away any 21700. I can also get more pack configuration options, run cooler, and have longer overall cycle life.

Are there a lot of setups that can best benefit from a 21700-based configuration? Of course! Are there a lot of setups that can best benefit from an 18650-based setup. Of course!

Saying with certainty that one particular size cell is better than another size cell for all circumstances is just not a supportable statement. We need to remove our limited personal preferences when making general statements like yours.

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Say what you all will but there’s a reason why EV car manufacturers, e-scooters, eboard companies are moving to 21700. Yes there are lower capacity 18650 that provides much punch but are you willing to settle for the lower efficiency and range? Isn’t that what MOST people want - decent performance and long range (that’s what the Zeus is right) ? How many in the esk8 world wants Molicel-Ps or Samsung/20R/25R/30Q …only the DIY type guys here. Or more of the smart asses that think they know everything and doesn’t go out of their basement and see the world for themselves. I don’t pretend to know everything like you guys do here but I do see where the technological market is heading. Tesla moving away from 21700 to 4680 cells. Hi power escooters moving away from 18650 to 21700. It will continue to evolve. Get out of the old and in with the new already.

And the only reason one justify 18650 is the COST compared to 21700. Ever since 21700 was readily available at a more decent affordable price, it has taken over the 18650 market which is unbelievably affordable now. Less cells = less possible problems. If you’re building a “high powered” board with limited spacing, 100% for sure 18650 is the better choice. But have you seen the boards of today? They aren’t so small are they?

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