Ryan, i kid you not, i was planning on doing a brief video as a gag on that super scientific testing. but i was drenched after my Dawn Patrol run and lost the motivation. that video still makes me giggle (or jiggle depending on the quality of the cobble stones) 
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thanks for the compliments, hopefully the format and information helps everyone
HAHA thatās great 
Yeah that dawn patrol video doesnāt look like something Iād want to do, I hate being cold and wet
fam - not to rush anyone to a decision but would be great to see a formal opinion from each of the testers. my intent is to regularly check the thread and link to each individualās comment and link them in the first post of the thread through the end of April. After this time the clean up will be ongoing but irregular.
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Sureā¦iāll give you all my opinion once i receive them. 
i think i can stop mentioning it knowā¦Most people saw it by now ^^
Unless my neoboxes magically blow up, Iāve made my assessment 
Caden, i feel like an idiot sorry i missed your post. i mean itās the first real effing post and in bold.
i think this reinforces my previous statement that me wearing a helmet is like taking out an insurance policy on a wet paper towel.
No sweat 
I tend to slip through the cracks in most occasions ĀÆ\(ć)/ĀÆ
@jeffwuneo hey! just ordered two v6 neoboxes, was wondering when the 2nd shipment is going out?
Still waiting on mine 
i was told production should end in 1-2 weeks, then theyāll ship i guess. i ordered (the V4) about a week ago
i swear, you probably get yours even sooner than me.
He said by the end of the month. Likely delayed to the very beginning of next month if then run into any issues. Soon. Some people have purchased near 1 and a half months ago, so try to wait a week 
Summary of my experience and thoughts
I got about 150 km on my v6 neoboxes and no problems. Would have wanted more miles on them but the corona situation limited my riding times.
Setup
Trampa board (200 mm wheels) with 12s6p 30q battery170kv, motors, e-toxx helical mini geardrive 4:1, centre mounted enclosure, gt2b remote, metr-pro, davegax.
Rider: 74 kg with gear.
Im using 3.58 fw since that was the last stable fw I had on my computer at the time. Motor setup FOC sensored.
Neobox experience
At first I didnāt really notice a difference between my old single focboxes and the v6 neoās but after pushing them a bit further, I notice acceleration is smoother and torque at top end speed seems to have improved, since I really get pushed into my bindings when accelerating at high speed now. I can also confirm the neoboxes run a little cooler than the focboxes since Iāve had no thermal throttling, which I did sometimes have on my focboxes. They also got pretty toasty sometimes but no issues when they did. I also ran some decent amps (see metr pro logs in my previous posts in this thread).
I would also like to mention I broke my top speed (62 km/h) on them, which was quite stable. Additionally, I braked hard going about 50 km/h a few times and no issues there either, brakes are strong (-20 battery current max regen).
So, at this point I would recommend them (keep in mind I have just used them for 150 km, time will tell if they hold up).
I will now list some points that can use some improvement IMO:
Like others have mentioned, im not a huge fan of the structural case design its not very practical for unplugging or plugging in connectors (on the go), a tradeoff for a almost fully enclosed pcb (which will be waterproof in the next batch as I understood). The case does look stunning for sure, I really like the look of them in my enclosure 
Moreover, two connectors gave me some issues. The rx and tx on the uart connectors is swapped which made me swap the cables on the davegaX connector, not a big deal but maybe the rx and tx can be swapped on the next batch. For the metr pro this is not a problem btw, only for davega users. Anyway the leads on the davega connecter can be swapped easily. Furthermore, I had to solder on the servo cable leads from the remote receiver because the connector doesnt fit in the case.
Also, some of the brass standoffs in the case seem to extend beyond the heatsink part of the case which prevents the lid from being snug with the heatsink case. Also not a big deal but if fixed would ensure slightly better heat dissipation and a nicer look.
Its also a bit of a hassle to close the lid with the cables running through the case. I came up with my own heatsink/mounting plates which bolts to the lids and makes it easier to unmount and open up the cases when I need to. Plus adds a bit of extra heatsink.
To summarize the last two points, the heatsink side of the case (where the fets are placed against) does not have any mounting points. The mounting points (bolts) are placwd on the thin lid side, which makes placing a heatsink on that side less effective because there is a gap between the lid and heatsink part and its further away from the fets.
So at this point if you want a better heatsink than the stock case of the neoās you will have to take the pcbās out of the case and use a completely separate heatsink plate, which @Skatardude10 did i believe. Again not a big deal but its something to think about, since some setups are made to expose the mounting side of the escs to the air for cooling. With the current design this would be less effective, which I noticed in my setup. I run my battery and escs in a centre enclosure and the escs can get pretty toasty sometimes. Im sure if the fets were placed on the mounting side, I would have more effective cooling within my setup.
Jeff already took feedback and the case will see some changes, curious to see what they came up with. And im sure with the support of Jeff the neoboxes will be a great and affordable option 
We are making the production batch of neoBOX now, we think it can finish in 1-2 weeks and then send out to everyone. We are taking extra time for QC to make sure everything is ok. We have build testing jig for test each one so we can be sure reliable operation.
I will share some more detail on Monday when I check with my production manager for status.
And for neoBOX case we made some design changes already. I will try to share photos and drawings in a few days.
You can see the summary of changes we make for production in the other thread.
i can wait a week, dont worry. was just interested in when aprox they would go
Looking forward to getting mine. But it would have been nice to have these on my 2 week vacation. Suppose I still have the whole summer to enjoy them
Here is my hot take.
I said I would start testing today/yesterday. I spent 4-5 hrs locktiting and adjusting a distance build.
There are always headaches with newish builds. I donāt mean to detail a build log here, but that the red pill v6ās were placed and powered without difficulty is instructive.
High points as mentioned by others
+nice anodized finish
+/- close but not exact fit of OG focboxes
-phase leads needed resoldering
-brass standoffs in case not ideal mounting scheme
My Bluetooth telemetry failed me completely. I donāt have logs. When they stop tinkering with stupid user feature requests, Iām sure it will provide amusing logs again.
There are already scattered pics of the pcbs from me here and there.
That @jeffwuneo could pull this off during corona times, is astounding. We, in America, can barely stock disinfectant on supermarket shelves, and even then, we need reminders not to drink it.
Iāll post logs later tonight if they record.
Maybe swap the tx and rx pin on the connector of the module this fixed it for my davegaX
Do you have HM-10 hooked up on new firmware? Metr Pro was plug and play for me on old and new firmware, and as @Creavenger said the Davega needs TX/RX swap. HM-10 stopped working for me from 4.x FW on. Good write-up.
Hoping to see more of these in the wild soon.
