MBS Matrix iii (3) discussion

I did not. On both back and front.

I went out of the gate with Orange/outside-back and White/front.

That crossed my mind for a second.
So I may in fact give it a spin.

What was striking for me was how hard the front was to turn with the White/outside but at low speed.

It just felt foreign and restrictive, again at the lower speeds.

Carving at speed did feel good.

I appreciate the comments on the compression.
I did not realize it was such an impact with small adjustments.

I realize your comment about bindings is for everyone, but I did give bidings a college try.

In fact I was rocking them riding streets when I first fell in love with the M2s.

I just got scared and paranoid over time and moved away…

Something for me that was an extra big deal loosing the bindings was how big and wide the Flux deck is.
So I move my feet around a bunch.

Think of a long board surfer.

Anyways. I got my second set of M3s this week and will get them going soon, on my Gravel Boi so it will be interesting to see if end up running a different variation of bushings.

Here is an older pic I found with the Flux next to my Comp 95.

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Sick man. Such great feedback. Nice quiver too.
I agree with you - whites outside without bindings is probably too stiff for most. No speed = no turn.
Great feedback on the width of the flux deck and your style of moving feet around to get extra leverage.
Glad to hear you’ve had some experience with bindings. Some feet just can’t be tamed.
Looking forward to next instalment…

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These work for bike headstocks where there is weight on the bearing from rider/bike with additional lateral forces from braking.

Sounds like a hard one to resist revisiting :+1:

My Matrix II stock nylon bushings haven’t been that good, I needed to tighten them up after what feels like nearly every ride. I swapped to moon’s matrix ii compatible PU bushings and the experience has been flawless since.

https://mooneskate.com/collections/diy-hardware-supply/products/set-4-mbs-top-bushings

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+1

Used and abused for 2 years but I was having to tighten the kingpin further and further to reduce the slop forming. I found that double nutting the kingpin helped but was a crutch. Throwing on replacements made them feel brand new again. Definitely a consumable.

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Thanks for the feedback and pics @Dinnye and @Venom121212 .

We changed a few things in the Matrix III that will improve bushing wear and reduce the problem of KP nuts coming loose (a common complaint). In short, I think most of the wear experienced in the past was more of a design issue than a material issue, but only long term use will prove that in the market.

I haven’t experimented with PU bushings on Channel trucks. But based on experience with TKP/RKP trucks and your feedback about Moon’s it sounds like it’d be worth doing.

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I’ll do my best to push them this season and see how they hold up :call_me_hand:

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@MBS how consistent is the m8 threaded hole placement?

You have to order the 70’s separately afaik + you need to order 4 of them

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We don’t specify a tight tol on that M8 hole location, but it should be within +/-0.2mm.

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@mbs, thanks, using them to hold our headlights in place.

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oooohhhh, very nice!

I had a lovely time on mine today.
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Sorry if this has been covered, do the new trucks have the same play on the blocks as the matrix II’s?

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Are you taking about the kind of slop you have on the M2s when you are initiating the turn?

If you don’t have a bunch of compression the axles can flop around kinda?!?

If that is what you are wondering I feel like the new trucks are way better, and the turning feels consistent from the beginning

I also feel like adding riptide to my M2s helped with that.

Love that riser/headlight combo. Also, IMO these are the best 8" tires on the esk8 market.

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Do you know if the orientation of the threads matters?

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If you care about better water evacuation, yes. Otherwise not really. They’re not that deep to begin with so there won’t be much difference even in the wet.

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In reality it doesnt really matter but I would only ever run them with water evacuation lines as arrows pointing forward

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I agree with the tyres. Best ride, well balanced and hard wearing. I have a large quantity I will be selling with the decks.

We are currently getting the mounts for the headlights cnc’d. Also great quality, designed for e-bikes originally. Better not derail this thread anymore.

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