“Show me on the doll where aviator hurt you”
Laying it on a bit thick there, dude. But okay. 
Yeah, you don’t really know me irl. I’ve talked to Artem on the phone so he probably knows me better than all of you. Feel free to call me if you wanna talk.
I legally registered this as NFT.
Pay money or get ducked.
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My entire point is that yous guys are laying it on entirely too thick. And that discourages people from getting involved. It’s like when I played elder scrolls online for 5 minutes and the toxic community outweighed the awesome world to explore. I’m not very passionate about anything bruh. But one thing I’ll always jump in on is fighting for people’s right to try shit. Monty’s allowed to try and do this. Frankly, I think he’ll very quickly find out why it’s not a common successful business model, but I’ll still punch people over his right to try.
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I think a majority is just saying to start slower than to offer a service to build custom esk8s when he hasn’t done a completed build for himself yet.
Learn to walk before you run.
Look at the swedish boards thread. He atleast has a single
Prototype to show
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i think our main thing is that while yes we may pretty rough, we did give lots of advice, especially in the beginning, to grow a good reputation and maybe even business but all that was sent in return is shitty sales threads and nothing actually showing that advice was taken. and then we see a second attempt to do business, without any other progress threads, or genuine questions for tips and tricks, or anythijg of the sort
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@AviatorEsk8er build one esk8 for yourself and do a build thread, use it heavily for a couple months. If it can run reliably then id say go for whatever you wanna go with
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Let it go. Is your effect in his life proportionate to his effect in yours? And either way, why do you feel the need to be a dick about it?
If dude wants to build customs let him go for it. If he’s so incompetent it’ll become apparent. Now, pointing out that it’s a bad business model, that is productive and true. But just outright roasting someone and saying that they specifically can’t do it is rude. Call it what you want, it’s just rude. Hell, sender ain’t sent me any rude messages or comments. There is a very real difference between constructive criticism vs just general animosity at the person doing stuff. There are a few people in this thread offering genuine advice for doing the thing, or how to make it work, and then there are people like “hey fuck you specifically how dare you try to succeed at this when we have a personal problem with you,” and that second group? Fuck that noise, if this crowd treated you like that you’d leave.
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it goes both ways too. If he’d not completely ignore much of the same criticism we gave him last time he tried to start an esk8 business, maybe we wouldn’t be on top of this.
I do think it was the wrong neighborhood. I said that. But I don’t want it to be. I don’t like that at all. We shouldn’t be that kind of crowd. Does anyone disagree with that?
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it’s great to see new business, i’m happy for that. by most have likely started doing esk8 as a business because people have seen what they can do and there’s demand for the skills
what i’m seeing aviator do is see the demand for diy services and without giving any forethought, and (based on hostorical events) charging a fortune. even with Art’s help, the lack in experience not only shows potential danger for the buyer physically and aviator business wise, but is potentially dangerous for every other DIY provider
Last time, with almost no experience and with a portfolio of one questionable battery with a bunch of red flags, we had about the same reaction, which was
- build more and get experience
- get better equipment
- you have to charge less than everyone else for a product with lower quality
it feels like a slap in the face, seeing our criticism go into the toilet. It also feels incredibly disrespectful, which is why we’re responding this way.
once again, I feel like this goes both ways. If you wanna be a contributing member of the community, don’t ask for advice to immediately throw back in the face of the people helping you
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I’m 150% guilty of the same, I just have a lot of charisma bonuses. We’ve all been noobs. Guide the hand. Don’t slap it away. That’s really all I have to offer on the matter.
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more than i have brain cells
probably
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It’s never not true
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