I thought russ was downunder?
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guess not. Propel HQ is in AUS i do know.
i thought they were based in florida, but maybe they just did some shit over here with him. they have a warehouse in california.
I would be in
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Doubt it. They posted on australian esk8 page on facebook that they were looking for distrubutors down under
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the phone number on propels instagram starts with 86 186 which means china, and i BELIEVE 186 means its a mobile number, whilst the phone number on their website is also a china country code, but area code is for weihai city. however, the original cycleagle brand seems to have been based in kent county, michigan, usa. back then a guy named javen was ceo, it seems hes still involved, but not as much. also, he seems to be based in china as well, and was on here under the name @Javen-CYCLEAGLE for like 5 minutes. perhaps @Russ can clarify.
dont mind me. decidedly anti cop detective brain.
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Appreciate you taking the time to reply in length to folks.
Hereās my personal take:
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I have not personally been slighted by Mboards, but enough of my friends have in the past to be pretty cautious of participating in anything being organized by them.
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The lack of disclosure/transparency that this is an Mboards organized event does not look great. Not a single mention on the entire website? Feels intentionally obfuscated.
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Mikes age is irrelevant. Heās an adult who is conducting business and thus will be held accountable when he fails to meet customer expectation
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This community, in general, I feel is pretty fatigued from the endless stream of toothless brands that show up looking to make a quick buck. From my POV, Mboards fully falls under this category.
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And on that point, while itās admirable you are here and running our proverbial social gauntlet, itās also noted that Mike Beard is not.
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Mike beard has not been present on this site since January I doubt he will be back anytime soon
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Are you all so desperate for an esk8 convention that you would support the lowliest of china resellers?
Itās not just that Mike Beard forgot to refund a guy once - itās that he runs a bad business, taking advantage of novices with legitimately unsafe products and doesnāt give a fuck about the repercussions (still, today). Thereās a reason we donāt recommend MBoards batteries. And thereās a reason he doesnāt show his face on this forum.
If the idea of a convention is so good, we have plenty of top notch vendors on this forum to rally around. If you want YouTube footage and product demos and group rides, letās organize the damn thing.
Much higher probability of success, fun, and memories. And we donāt support a dumpster fire of a company.
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I think too many of us here can say that we were essentially baited into buying things from mboards because they are the first result on google most of the time. before I found the forum I bought plenty of things there because I figured the first result on google would be reputable, however my experiences were fine except for the high prices.
this isnt an mboards bashing thread though, and perhaps we can take this concept and improve it. We have carve pdx but thats not really a convention, its more of a lets get as many people together in hill-land and ride. Many of us have clearly shown interest in a convention of sorts, and I feel like this could be done in a more open and inclusive way than just DIY. Iām not confident in my ability to come up with something, however an event like this should try and include as much of esk8 as possible such as prebuilt boards to ensure its success.
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Iāll give him a test run as an event coordinator. Thatāa actually a primary part of my job description, and Iāll let anyone who applies work at least ONE event. Also, I want to skate the Vegas strip at night. But make no mistake, this IS a test run, and if it goes badly Iām just gonna leave and go shoot machine guns in the desert because fuck yeah Nevada, and we can collectively judge this whole thing on Mikeās dime and do it on our own next time if it sucks.
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Youāre new here eh?
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Well no one has done it yet have they?
Itās not as if we can take it over now either since the planning and purchasing of rental stuff has already happened
Yah he showed up long after the kook and mbeards wild west showdown
anyways
Like @Dreads said, itās likely that mike might even lose money from this with how expensive all the rental stuff and insurance is, he didnāt plaster his company name all over (it is fishy though that it wasnāt listed at first even when that other company who is arguably offering worse products was listed)
It doesnāt seem like he is personally trying to profit from it. Itās inevitable that there will be two crowds here; people like @Evwan who donāt really know much about him, and others like sleepless and andrew that have had bad times.
So what do we do, again, we are left with a decision to make, just like when Jason started doing the esk8bro thing. Lets not turn the forum on itself. People will want to attend no matter who is running it, so lets let people have their own opinions and see what happens. Maybe it will be a dumpster fire, maybe not, but like Kai said, it would be fun to ride the vegas strip at night and meet people at mikeās expense
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thats not entirely true. if enough of us show up, it becomes OUR event that mike paid for, which honestly im surprised so few people see as revenge. we dont even have to stay there, if its lame we just ride out. isnt that why we have murderboards? just dont buy a booth.
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Lol yeah I was still typing. Thatās how I saw participating passively in the esk8bro thing too, just taking Jasons sponsor money from him and not promoting the site in any way, but people have their strong opinions about that too
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fuck that, no one complains about magnetos wealth cuz he took it from NAZIS when he was young.
oh yeah no one gets my xmen references here. T.T
also, id almost like to see it even more if it IS a dumpster fire. unless its a dumpster full of mboards batteries. that would be too predictable. ayyyyyy
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Iāll take this one personally 
I just got past the enertion drama chapter, next chapter is psychotiller
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Thanks for volunteering to put together a true DIY esk8 convention. Respect.
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Keep a bucket of sand ready.
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Jesus, those guys are like the kindergarten stories. Wait til you get to the Jeff Wu saga
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