Direct Drives???

Yes, I know. I thought the same thing.

After many tries though, I’m just gonna have to recommend you skip over direct drive. But do what you want :smiley: They just aren’t as good as they seem on paper.

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All BLDC motors will be mostly waterproof out of the box, as long as you don’t use sensors. Water will shorten the bearing life but you can change the bearings. Motor hall sensors seem really prone to failure for some reason, and if you haven’t personally went in there and waterproofed them yourself, then there’s little chance they’ll last very long. Even so, way more reliable to simply not use them at all. Only connect the 3 big phase wires.

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This is my exact usage also.

Use a really wide deck. Look at the Blue One or the Green one I made, those decks. I don’t know how wide the Boosted Mini deck is, but it looks narrow.

Also, going single drive on the rear heelside can save room too. Look at Damon’s Rona Roller for some more ideas.

Although I’d strongly recommend a 6380 or bigger motor on a single drive.

In rainy conditions single drive might actually be safer than dual drive. When both rear wheels slide you will likely crash. When only one slides the other still keeps you straight. Downside is you often struggle to get any power on the road before it spins.
When I ride my dual drive in the rain I set one motor to only 50% power so one slides before the other. You might also consider rubber wheels with tread to help with traction.

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I second all of this
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It’s counter-intuitive but I much prefer single drive when it’s wet and slick.

Dual-diagonal would be better still, but on a shortboard, there’s typically no space for all that jazz.

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I’m 3d printing my enclosure too. Welcome to the club!

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3D printing and then fiberglass on top seems like it could be really awesome. I don’t know if I’d personally use just a 3D printed enclosure.

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Hello guy on reddit, I’m glad you took my advice and moved over here for help! :smiley:

What wheels do you plan on using? In the wet I highly suggest rubber wheels, can be those new airless ones, can be pneumatic, althought I doubt those will work well with the Boosted mini deck :stuck_out_tongue:

(Btw, since you’re new to the forum, I highly recommend searching around and getting inspiration from other people’s builds. Or just browsing the pictures and nothing else thread is a great way to see what the world of DIY esk8 has to offer :partying_face: )

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Hey @Satoshi, good to see you here.
If you were open to the idea of a different deck. Take a look at the Loaded Omakase. By the end of this week there should be a nice little enclosure available for it.
The direct drives that are available, as others have said do have questionable quality control. If you could pick up a set of Hummie hubs that would be the best stealth simplicity drives you could get hold of. If you really must dip your toe in the direct drive market, I have a couple of sets of Carvon V2.5 drives that can go for cheap.

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Hey!!

Thanks for the advice!!! I love my 105 cloud wheels so will most likely be sticking with them for the new build. I’m looking to build a board that will be fine in the rain, not a board designed only for the rain, so the clouds heel hold up well enough on wet ground.

And definitely going to do some more looking around for inspiration, looking to start building in around a month so I have plenty of time to prep :smiley:

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Welcome. Good luck!

I would go for 21700 molicel P42A cells for your battery. They are the best cells on the market IMO

Unity is good, xeinth has better quality checks. Another option is the sprinted Ubox which has ports for lights and a horn.

I would recommend gear drives instead of direct drives IMO the gear drives will be easier to undertake maintenance on and work out slightly more water proof.

I’ve actually seen the loaded Osaka before, loved the design but I think it’s just a little bit too big.

The hubs look ridiculous but with all the power in the world… they’re still hubs and I want to choose my wheels. Plus I don’t want to spend that much on something that might get water damaged :joy:

. Thanks for the offer but I’m looking for something a little newer, I’ve seen videos of them from around 2016 and would prefer something I don’t need to play around with.

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Here’s another really great option.

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I’m not interested in building my own pack tbh, there’s so much equipment to buy for it and makes me spin a little just thinking about it :sweat_smile:. But I’ll keep that in mind when asking one of the battery builders on here :]

I think I’m gonna go with the xeinth, a few people have already suggested it and it looks like a cool piece of kit.

I did look at the gear drives but wasn’t sure on how much of a difference they will make in regards to waterproofing. I Emailed Kevin from Boardnamics and he said that they are fine in the rain just not under any kind of water pressure and to bear in mind the fasteners are not rust proof. So I’m going to give gear drives a closer look :grin:

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Yh the reason I say is that gear drives are fairly easy to dismantle where as it can be a bit more confusing and easier to damage direct drives and like you said it’s still fairly new, I have the Torque board 60kv direct drives and will need to put some work into them as one of the motors is catching on the can or something.

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if you go gear drives maybe get somewhere more local
@moon sells for bigger wheels and @3DServisas sells for smaller like cloud wheels but is a bit more expensive

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I asked 3Dservisas what would be best for waterproofness and they said a model which was close to a grand… I thought I had a large budget but that way out there :sweat_smile:

And moon looks to be only for 6* plus.

The m1 gears were one of the only ones for street wheels and that didn’t break the bank.

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Ask @Anubis if he has an ETA on when he will have stock from the BN M1 GDs. Might be worth to wait for that if it’s not too far out.

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Around the same time kevin gets them, maybe a couple weeks? Im not entirely sure

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