Best pneumatic tires?

thank you. while they look so similar in different pictures, when pictured side by side their bolt pattern looks slightly different. The shape of the interstitial spaces (where the press fit pulleys would go) also looks different. I hate to make you break out the calipers, but it would be so dope if you can give us the exact measurements of the bolt pattern

That’s what I measured from bolt middle to bolt middle.

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BTW, TB pulleys fit Evolve but not vice versa.

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I was eventually thinking of making a new tire… any suggestions? For science.

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I totally forgot about the 6" Evolve tires @janpom :wink:

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I am missing 125mm road tread and 225/250mm road tread.
But I don’t think they will be very demanded. If you can make a 150mm tire that hold up for more than 200-300km for carving it would be also a gain.

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@Chricious Have you tried the Evolve 150mm ones? Were those holding up or no?

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Yes, they were my first ones. They didn’t even last 200km.

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I wonder how pneumatic wheels compare in terms of power consumption. I suppose that lower consumption will generally be achieved by higher pressure and smoother tire surface. How much the wheel size is a factor? Does one get better range with smaller wheels?

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I’ve seen it stated a couple of times but it seems like with the standard 6" AT tires, you pump to 60-65 psi (maybe 70, I’ve done it but didn’t feel comfortable) and double your wh consumption

Sorry, double compared to what? To when the pressure is lower/standard? Did you mean “double the range / half the consumption”?

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Sorry, I may have misinterpreted what you wrote

I mean double the power consumption/half the range when compared to running decent thane at 90-100 mm

There’s also a big difference in my personal testing to go below 60 psi. Between 60+ and 60- psi, I would say 60-, your consumption can increase by 1.5 compared to 60+ psi. Another fun data point is at the 70 PSI, power consumption seems only to be 1.3 - 1.5 of similar thane however the ride is quite hard at that point

Something I want to try too is running my wheels flat just for science. I know it’s possible because I’ve done it before but the rolling resistance is huge too

Right. That’s not what I was asking though. I wonder about pneumatics vs pneumatics rather than pneumatics vs thane.

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Oooh can i request 5 inchers? I know it seems counter intuitive but the market is already saturated with bigger tires and having a 5 incher allows for getting AT styles wheels onto smaller/lower builds.

I know Hoyt is suppose to come out with 5 inchers during the summer

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My mistake :sweat_smile: Thought you were asking pneumatic vs tradition thane

I’d imagine bigger wheels (provided the width is the same) should result in a smaller (possibly relatively though?) contact area and hence maybe lower rolling resistance?

Interesting, found this tidbit here: Rolling Resistance | Schwalbe Tires North America – schwalbetires.com

Tire pressure, tire diameter, tire width, tire construction, tire tread and other factors all have an effect on rolling resistance.

On a completely smooth surface the following applies: The higher the inflation pressure, the inferior the tire deformation and thus rolling resistance.

Off road it is exactly the reverse: The lower the inflation pressure, the lower the rolling resistance. This applies equally on hard gravel roads and soft forest tracks. Explanation: A tire with low inflation pressure can adapt better to a rugged surface. It sinks into the ground less and the whole rotational mass is held back much less by the uneven surface.

Tires with a smaller diameter have a higher rolling resistance with the same inflation pressure, because tire deformation is proportionally greater. The tire is flattened more and is “less round”.

Wider tires roll better than narrower tires. This statement generally invokes skepticism, nevertheless, with tires at the same pressure a narrower tire deflects more and so deforms more.

Obviously, tire construction also has an effect on rolling resistance. By using less material, less material can be deformed. And the more flexible the material is, such as the rubber compound, the less energy is lost through deformation.

Generally, smooth treads roll better than coarse treads. Tall lugs and wide gaps usually have a detrimental effect on rolling resistance.

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Worst range I got with small flat shaped pneumies like 150mm Evolve. On 50 PSI 30% less range compared to 175mm Evolve on 50 PSI.

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I keep imagining cycling wheels scaled to esk8 size for range lol

But seriously I wonder :thinking:

12" diameter wheels but not as thick. Need a large hub so a tube will fit correctly.

Will make for an interesting deck shape.

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I have wondered about 12" bmx wheels, a chain gear drive would be a cinch

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Those old metal tube nose decks might work with the enrolls turning.

I can’t remember the name of them, I feel like they were French. @riako assist?

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I would like to ride 12"x2" on our Titan flex deck :grin: