Archived: the OG noob question thread! 😀

i got the ones i have now from china and yep they took a long time to ship…these things have been failing at the same spot like crazy. i think i’ll give the ones from Amazon a try.

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Are key’s (like we use in keyways on our motor shafts) magnetic?

Yeah, all this.

In fact I would venture to say that belt board are easier to kick push than hub boards, because you can take the belt off :wink:

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They aren’t magnetized but they do stick to a magnet.

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Just push a magnet over the key in one direction…

You can kickpush any build, it’s just a matter of degree as to how much rolling resistance the drivetrain has.

Hubs and/or direct drives generally have lower rolling resistance than gear or belt drives, but it’s not zero. It’ll feel like you’re pushing uphill or through sand - You won’t get anywhere near as far on a single kick with hubs as on an unpowered unmodified board.

Like Brian said, with a belt drive you can remove the belt entirely in a pinch, and have a board that pushes just as freely as any non-E sk8. Depending on the exact design and layout of the drivetrain components, or if you have a skate tool, you can even get the belt off without resorting to a sharp object.

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And for what it’s worth, I have kicked broken belt boards all the way home a couple times over the years. And it’s no problem at all. Even if you don’t take the belt off.

But if you have a skate tool or a pocket knife, you can turn it into an analog skate with ZERO resistance in mere seconds.

Of course all the companies selling cheap hub motor boards will tell you otherwise… solely because they want to sell you a hub motor board…

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This is all in the hopes that you’re not running pneumatics. Trying to kick push pneumatics is definitely a noticeable decrease in ride quality

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LoL yeah. I don’t use pneumatics, so I forgot about that.

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guys…why am i able to move the shaft with the bell (?) Screws on the shaft are tightened. (turn audio up)

I wouldn’t worry about that

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i had something similar October last year but there it only happened by pressing on top of the Can. Problem got solved by tightening the screw on the stator (which the head broke off)

This was october :

This time its by pulling

EDIT : oh well, i also noticed that my mbs baseplate is cracked.

@Mainflow i might need that truck earlier if possible :sweat_smile:

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That was my exact belt setup before switching to gears. 35mph was the highest I clocked on a full charge.

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precisely how much magic smoke escaping is too much?

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As long as the majority of the smoke is retained or replaced with fresh smoke, you should be fine :+1:

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do you have a link for some good replacement magic smoke?

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I’m still under the magic smoke purchasing age in my country :frowning:

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plenty of magic smoke here in casa de sesat

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Hi Guys,

Is there somebody who is kind of an expert with VESC and the VESC-Tool and can help me?

I have a motor-kit und set it up 3 months ago and everything was working perfectly, until one day it suddenly wasn’t anymore. First I thought it was a bad connection somewhere, but after I checked everything I found out that the motors only start to stutter over a certain current (more than 2A, the motors are rated for continuos 60A, the ESC for 80A and the Battery 60A with capable peaks of 150A)… Or over a certain threshold of the duty cycle?

And honestly, I don’t know what to do… I don’t think the motors are fried, nor the ESCs… I really would like to fix this and ride :sob:

I would really appreciate some help.

My setup:
MOTOR TYPE - DUAL DIRECT DRIVE MOTOR
MAX POWER - 4000 WATTS Per Motor
MAX AMPS - 80 AMPS Per Motor
KV RATING - 90 KV
MAX VOLTAGE - 12S (50.4V)
MOTOR POLES - 28 Poles

Battery:
60amp Continous / 150amp Peak BMS.
12S4P = 12S = 44.4v Nominal and 4P equals 12,000mah. Peak voltage is 50.4v.

Remote:
2.4GHz nano Remote Controller

ESC: VESC Firmware 4.1

What I did so far:

  1. Flashed new firmware on the two ESCs (nothing surprising here)

  2. Ran the motor detection on both motors, separately and linked with canbus. (both methods were without surprise working well. Every time motor was correctly detected and I could specify the turning direction and test it with the available buttons)

  3. Remote detection and setup (without issues)

  4. As soon I start this setup everything goes wrong, motor shuttering and it sounds scary as hell. What I found out is, if I am very, very gently with the throttle the motors spinn up nicely. Applying some resistance and the shuttering starts again.
    With the realtime data display I tested out, that higher currents or higher duty cycles caused this effect.

  5. I tried every thinkable combination of esc and motor (always reflashing and detecting again).

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Hi Patrick-

First off, welcome to esk8.news! I bumped your account so you’re not limited in posting or messaging.

Have you considered walking back to a previous version of Vesc Tool (I still use 0.83) or trying it with Ackmaniac?

You can find previous versions of vesc tool here:

Here’s a great Ack runthrough with the hirsute and girthy @mmaner:

There have been some reports of weird drivetrain behaviour with 4.1 and I got firmware timeouts when I checked it out the other day.

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