You want @mackann’s new motors, just nag him to release them lol
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I saw that a few days ago. I love the open design with mesh. Idk why it hasn’t been done yet!
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This could end up being the right answer LoL
But they’re not available yet 
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If these end up being offered in the right KV I’ll definitely pick a set up. But 210 is too high and 13x is too low for me. I’d like 170
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Same. Wish there was an in-between version, but I see how extra SKUs kinda sucks for him.
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Theoretically 130kv you can adjust with lower gearing if you want higher speed. Problem is the added winding resistance will make it hotter than a 210kv
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I think lower KV might not be bad if you are mostly going near max speed and not accelerating or climbing hills all the time. Yeah, winding resistance will be more so you will have more copper losses for the same current. However lower KV has higher torque output for the same current. Overall (including the gearing) it will be less efficient to run low KV for high torque output, but maybe not as inefficient as it might seem for the first glance.
But when going at full speed (so max or nearly max motor RPM), the iron losses will be less compared to the iron losses on the higher KV motor, therefore when going fast all the time on a flat, it might be more efficient to run lower KV. Whether it’s actually more efficient depends on the torque required to keep the high speed and the motor RPM.
To be clear, the losses depend on a lot of variables including the specific motor’s specs, the gear ratio, the max speed of the board, the riding style and more. There’s no way to know which one is more efficient overall for a specific rider and board without real world riding logs, some extra information about the specific motor’s properties, and advanced physics. I am not an electrical engineer yet, so I am sorry if there are some inaccuracies or I overlooked something in what I wrote above. I am just trying to say that the KV versus efficiency topic is a way deeper topic than it seems at first glance, and probably 190KV is not the best option for everyone.
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Titan proprietary motors. You can’t buy them elsewhere with those specs.
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But no one is generally going max speed all the time everywhere. I think it was discussed already that the sweet spot for esk8 use motors is 190kv and the rest comes down to gearing.
With the right reduction i can run both motor types at 50% duty on average, but the higher kv one has half the winding resistance of the low kv one
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Just no. Higher s-count with lower p-count makes no difference for per-cell power output.
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I was not talking about p counts.
Going higher voltage doesn’t put less stress on the cells, it just makes charging faster. (and also need a bigger, more expensive charger)
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Mb you guys are right!
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Any update on Antinno vs aps? Kinda keen to buy one now but also want to see bioboards new ones…
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Got the chobby ones. Set how much you want to spend and choose within that budget is all i can say
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I just bought these 
Thank you @Skyart
And
Peeps if you email Dex I think he has some left 150$ a pop
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Kinda weird kV no? Misses the 12s crowd @ 190kV and misses the 15s+ crowd at 140kV?
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Running it on 15s right now…its glorious
Going to 18s a bit later
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Fair enough, I retract my earlier statement.
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beat me to it got a set too, very pretty.
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