Agree. But smaller wheels will always perform better. Better accel, braking and the board is lighter. That’s related to mass of the wheels
I have three choices for my next board, and I want to test all 3 wheels in a way that allows me to really feel the difference between them. They are the TB110s Blue, TB 110s Black, and Boa Constrictors 100mm.
Do I go Tb110 Black -> Boas -> Tb110 Blue?
TB110 Black -> TB 110 Blue -> Boas?
Boas -> Tb110 Blue -> TB 110 Black?
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I think Tb110 Black -> Boas -> Tb110 Blue
hahaha… the blues might spoil you from what I hear, still hoping for mine to show up if ever.
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How do these 77a Caguama blue wheels feel ride-wise? They are so squishy to the touch! Just compared them to my “74a” China thanes. Like I said earlier, just plus a few more notches on the durometer rating for China thane as the 77a Cags definitely feel as soft as the 74a China thanes.
Just had my first ride in the fresh wheels 
they are really cushy on the nicely paved tarmac, still harsh on those rough tarmac…
Overall they feel better than my 97mm abec flywheel actually, I’m all in for the hype 
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I have some 97mm 74A china abec clones from eskating.eu, they are almost exactly the same feel as the Boosted Stratus 85mm 78A so probably similar to the light blue 77A Caguamas
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I have a feeling that most replica/unbranded 97mm clones are the same compound…
I had a set that I got from Taobao, they are the absolute worst… claim to be 74A but feels way harder than that…
My current rating for the wheels that I’ve tried (from best to worst)
- Orangatang Caguama 77a 85mm
- Cloudwheels 120mm
- Abec flywheel 97mm 74a
- Boosted Stradus Clone 90mm
- Abec clone 97mm
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Yep, I have a set of 83mm china thane wheels as well that are supposedly 78A but they are hard as rocks.
The 97mm “74A” ones are much softer and actually quite nice for a budget build even thou they’re probably not really 74A.
China OEM thane = +4 to +8 on Duro rating before decision to buy, except the renowned brands that are made in China.
You’ll have no issues with the equation.
They are definitely not 74a 
but as you said, they are ok for those who are on a budget, I rode my abec clones till they chipped like surface of Mars 
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I’ve pretty much given away every set of a abec clones I’ve ever owned.
they work for somebody trying to get a board setup and on a budget for their first build.
But I feel guilty charging money for them.
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Thats how I feel about all my ABECs , even the real ones
Im swapping to TB110s whenever I scrounge up the cash/
Even the 107 78s are just not that comfy, and I want to start commuting my board the 16 miles
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Honestly I love my 90, 97 and 107 abecs ( black formula)
I used all three for commuting and never had any issues
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Nothing “wrong” with them, but I can’t say they’re comfy. Based on what I’ve heard about the 110s they’ll be much better.
The abecs Excel on smooth hard pavement at speed. But but I’m also on a falcon 36 so there’s next to no board flex
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I rode on pretty bad Oregon roads on all three daily and was plenty happy.
Then again I still skate on standard skate wheels for analog so maybe I’m just used to really high vibrations.
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Next to no board flex is a little wrong… If I do a tiny 1/2in hop then it flexes a good amount, close to 1/2 inch of flex with a 100pound person…
today I learnt something after some real world testing that some of you might already know, but for those who don’t, it’s something that might affect your range overall.
On a push board with the exact same trucks and bearings, I test 2 different sets of wheels both with the same stated 78A duro 70mm dia.
The difference is one is from China and one is from what I believe to be, from the US (a reputed brand- - Divine Wheel Co). From what I felt, it felt like the China made one was just slightly harder on the thane.
However when ridden, the China made ones had a very distinct drag and a much shorter rolling distance than the US set.
My son also tested the difference and it could be palpably felt and the freeroll distance could be measured.
I even tried this on different decks and the difference was night and day. I couldn’t figure it out at first because I always thought that harder thane would bring you further and softer thane would produce more drag, but eventually I was led to believe that it was probably something to do with the core of the wheels and how they interacted with the bearings and axle that produced the drag or helped alleviate friction.
I could be wrong. But I know now that this is a good test of things to come regarding wheels, a constant drag could drastically reduce range if we are talking about a compounding effect.
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I think it probably has more to do with the rebound.
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Will the new boas be available in red like the old?
Edit, visited their page, seems like it will
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