I really value you testing so please wear a helmet. Sessions like these have always been my most susceptible to falling.
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The Singularity bushings got me really excited about my mountain board again and I had tons of fun riding it in the woods and mountain bike trails.
I am shocked and super stoked on how much fun I’m having on this board now with the MAD wheels and the looseness of the A/C Singularity set up.
Just amazing to throw around.
Playing around in front of the house hasn’t been this fun since I used to have a black top roads…
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Those trucks don’t look “out of the box” anymore after those nasty grinds !
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Ok i think i found my setup. Im running them on the Bog Roosh which is basically a loanstar deck and enclosure. To make the matrix three trucks work with how big the double stack enclosure is I have a 25 mm riser on front and back. I ran the matrix three trucks with the original bushings in their innermost position, and ran the lightest bushings with no preload.
No bindings, 200lbs geared up, my stance is all over the place – trying to take advantage of all the real estate on this boat. Add a +5° wedge in the front so I was running 40°/25°. Basically as much slack in the system without introducing too much slop. Had some wiggle at center so stopped being stable at about 35 and took massive concentration to push any faster but that’s fine as I don’t like riding around that speed and only pushed it there every so often.
Got a set of the 93a krank a/b/c/d to test from @RipTideSports and started trying different setups. First a/b on my original angles and it was way too divey and unridable. With how much leverage from the massive risers and 40/25 asym it wasn’t compatible. Didn’t even ride that really.
Immediately pulled the wedge from the front and went to B/C. Better but the rear was swimming out from behind me so my weight on a curve/carve was too forward and off balance.
Dewedged the rear -5 and it was better, went to -10 (15 degrees final angle) and it was staying behind me and i cold start putting my weight into the board but the front was feeling twitchy even with a lot of preload.
Switched to c/d and the rear died but the front was still twitchy. Lots of center in the rear but the front was too turny. Did about 30 miles on this to figure it out as it’s rideable but just not right yet. Close
Dewedged the front -5 to 30 so im at 30/15 and it felt much more balanced and smooth but the rear was fighting me to center. Hit 35 on a nice straight like it was nothing. Just a dart but i want bird
Swapped back to the b/c and 
. Was just doing some easy neighborhood loops testing between rain showers and killed a solid hour just enjoying it. Low angles is the key to my set.
Id like to try symmetrical bushings b/b and c/c and either go down a duro in krank or up one in wfb to see if i can kill a little more of the return to center or reduce the progressive pushback a smidge in the rear
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Awesome testing, thank you. It makes sense to take advantage of low degree setups since you have so much more lean to work with! We do not have plans to do WFB in this series but we have not tried APS yet either.
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Let me know when i can buy a some of the b/c in 93 and 90a. Doesn’t feel like the singularity is a beta - these need to be an option for non binding users on the matrix 3s. These are too good not to get perfect. It’s like the range of use for these trucks is unlocked - best channel truck experience by far. Turns as well as my 50 degree Paris v3s
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PM me exactly what you want with your address and I will send it out comp.
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Got a nice little ride in, it is so weird to be able to just carve like a crazy person throwing your weight at low speed, then punch it to 25-30 and feel like a dart, and start carving again at 30 like it’s 10mph. There is some magic in these - cant wipe this stupid grin off my face
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Did you receive the additional parts we sent?
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Not yet, so stoked on this though im trying to talk my brother into filming to show off what i can do so far 
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@RipTideSports Hey Brad, any idea when these will be available to order ?
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The people deserve to see the super lean
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Additional bushings showed up Saturday… right as the rain hit 
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Swapped to 93a b/b and already can feel the difference in return to center. The shape seems to have a good progressive effect on the rtc and . imho a has very little, b has some but doesn’t have much right at the apex keeping a soft feel, c has a distinct and specific center point, d is a very aggressive centering.
Ill put some miles on the b/b once it’s dry and report back but my hunch is b/b is the shape for me.
Gonna do c/c in 93a and 90a to compare but i think kits at the appropriate duro as b/b for low rtc and c/c for people who haven’t seen the light of loose trucks yet should be made available to general audiences as long as they are also able to get their angles de-wedged to something close to 25/15. (Edit: actually 30/20)
Probably go down a shape for bindings with the extra leverage to a c/c or d/d. As i ride exclusively no bindings on loose bushings i can only speculate but being able to lever into the c and d shapes when strapped in could help make them feel less restrictive and give better feedback through the binding. Just thinking out loud here - no binding experience
If mbs had -5 and -10 degree risers like These you could cut out 99% of the fiddle factor setting these up. Wedging past -5 degrees is a bit much for the bolts is a bit sketch without drilling and replacing the captured nuts with standard nyloc ones
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60ish miles on the (edit - is actually 30/20 final angles) 25/15 degree b/b 93a and wow. Feeling so good at 30 and under but i think a bit too soft and responsive to get any deep carving in the 30s. I think ive got the ankle strength and control to swing the high 30s but its an a game play. switching to 90a c rear but the rest the same today to soak up some more of this early season weather.
Playing off of the rebound to carve tight lines around obstacles is so much fun
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On the B/B combination with a 25/15 split and same duro are you preloading the back more than the front?
I tried a little preload but no more than three turns. The front is happy at almost 1 turn of preload
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Well.
Did ya?
Did ya?
Spill the goods Joel @MBS
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Ok, didn’t put as many miles on the b93/c90 setup as i thought i would, about 30miles. Before i swapped in the c90/c90 for a shorter run and went back to the b93/b93. Rain started last night at midnight so cut my ride short and no morning ride today… and that’s when i get on esn, otherwise i have to clean my work benches 
With no binding and the asym setup the return to center and the force to break into a curve/carve i was steering from the rear. My back foot was doing all the work and without more leverage it was less fun. Absolutely rock solid stability and still had most of the turn radius. Went through some of the Seattle streets they imported from the moon ( cobbles with failed asphalt and busted up sectional concrete with big kutchunk energy) and it did really well. Still loose enough to hit big nasty holes and bounce back under you.
Just in general these keep the board under you so well. Day and night from the original bushings. Even if im running the c/c setup (biggest return to center) or the softer b/b setup there is just a better feeling to the way the board reacts to large sudden bonks and diagonal or parallel lips.
I didn’t carve on my original matrix 3 bushings on concrete roads before because you can get a train track effect from hitting the transition/expansion joints and it can pull the board out from under you and you have a bad day. The confidence of the b/b setup has me experimenting on these streets and i can definitely feel when i hit the joints as im pushing into a carve. Definitely some of the big 1-2” drops and rises try to get ya but the trucks are so compliant and responsive and predictable it’s not a high stress incident.
TLDR b93/b93 is my jam. Took brads advice and put a little more preload in the rear on the b/b setup more intentionally and it’s hard to get off the board. Turning circles around apex airs and the Lorentz major and still solid jumping up to the high 30s to catch up from sweeping and blocking on group rides. 10/10 singularity evangelist.
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Following this thread, I just have one question… Singularity for Hypertrucks when?
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