This is actually really not true. The motivation behind it is for weight distribution. They want to get a front engine, RWD car to perfect 50/50 weight distribution, and they go to great lengths to accomplish this. plastic parts in the front, moving all accessories to the rear, adding extreme complications like moving batteries, even things like stereo amps, into the trunk space, so that the car is perfectly weighed. Fixing these things are a nightmare because everything was optimized for one thing: driving feel. The crappy panels that cover the bottom of the car for quiet and aerodynamics, etc. Aside from the quality and serviceability, there is few salon cars that feels as track ready as BMW.
If you ask me which car do I want to own and repair, BMW is at the bottom. If you ask me which 4 door car I would pick to race on a track, BMW is top 3.
Lol, which probably explains why M division head Albert Biermann went over to Hyundai and brought his race expertise to the N series. Even he had the intuition to know something was broken in BMW
As an new ESK8 manufacturer we did our research on the market last year and we came to the conclusion, that range is the most important factor for a successful e-board. Due to boosteds lack of range they are not suitable for extended group rides, which for most is the single most important criteria. If the board doesn’t have the range und you can’t keep up with your friends, you won’t buy that board. This is why we decided to use big batteries in our Intercepors and offer 60km of range with our small and 120km with our big battery. Nothing is more convenient than accomplishing the whole group ride without charging or swapping your battery. Careless riding without experiencing range anxiety is what everyone wants, because this hobby is all about freedom and community.
Boosted didn’t get this. They just used the hype and the attention they got through Casey Neistat and sold a lot of boards, until boosted board became a synonym for electric skateboards. Now, most people know, that there are other brands out there and they start to compare specs and see, that they can get way more for less money. Nowadays it’s a nobrainer to not buy boosted and go for another brand with more range, more power and a smaller price tag instead.
Why not swapping? imo range is for sure very important but NOT the main part. The downside of a very big battery is if you got a problem by time with the pack, your whole battery pack ends up to be nothing more like trash. I totally get your point about range, therefor the possibility to swap battery packs easily on the run, and keeping the price low for the customer is more needed than a godzilla battery pack which is heavy and expensive as fuck and needs billion hours of charging. Remember the very very most important part building an eskate for running business with is a Board every kid can buy without blasting a money train. So if you are able to buy just the batteries when you need them(smaller packs in this case) everyone can decide for themselfes how many packs they personally need and when to buy them. With a big monster board which is a nightmare to cary and with a shitload of battery cells you can just reach those guys who are still able to build their own better boards for themselfes. We need boards which we can pop against curbs, light and small, flexible in case of deck choice etc,…
but just my 2cent
peace bro
There are multiple reason speaking against swappable batteries.
You need to carry the battery around in your pack back instead of it carries by itself.
to get the same amount of capacity form 2 batteries instead of 1, you need more volume and more weight.
the swap mechanism can cause fails.
to designe and engineer this system is more complicated and more expensive than just a bigger battery.
It’s more expensive for the customer to order an additional spare battery afterwards and maybe pay additional shipping than get it in the first place.
The charging time is not a point. we deliver our boards with fast chargers which charge the batteries in similar times than small batteries.
The extra weight is a point indeed. But we think it’s worth it. You get for each additional kg 15km-20km more range.
Light and small boards to pop against curbs is not the average group riders choice. For that purpose you can choose mini boards.
For regular group riders are range and power more important. we figured out, that 50km of range and about 50km/h of top speed is what 60%-70% of riders want. About 20% wants more of both and just about 10%-20% would be satisfied with less.
So to get back to topic, if you take boosted, they satisfy just 10%-20% of the riders. Back in the days it was more like 80%-90%.
But riders and pretensions evolved, but boosted didn’t.
Yes, but you are not riding billiong km every day, so for some group rides it would be no problem to carry a 10s3p pack in a backpack for example.
For me the easiest part not to fail if you know what you re doing. Remember the lie about Mellow packs. They felt out because some idiots not able to put them in there right until completly locked.
Not true, bc a smaller battery is just so easy to solder. Wheres the problem with that???
totaler Quatsch! Do you want to tell me now that a smaller battery is much more expensive than a godzilla sized one just bc of the shipping.
Look out of your window and try to satisfy your neighborhood kids with your board, then tell me again about shipping
And you will satisfy the whole planet? I dont think so, but all best wishes.
Peace
New exway flex has more speed, better acceleration and 1/2 the cost. The Loosted mini a few mates have them in my opinion worst of both worlds heavy as fuck no flex but doesnt feel like a skateboard (short).
The one thing I think Boosted did right was their battery management. Impact and weather resistant case, almost no noticible power loss at the end of charge. Idiot proof charging. SOC, range estimates via the app while the board is off.
It’s a shame they never tried to increase the range beyond the ER with better/more cells or efficiency improvements.
You need multiple chargers to charge all the batteries at once, which can end up a mess on a long group ride or just at home
They are more expensive because every pack needs its own BMS (If it doesn’t then there can be issues with the durability of the 10+ pin connection needed for balance information)
You get to experience battery sag 2x, 3x more (Just times by the number of packs and even a bit more) than just having the cells in 1 pack which if the pack is small enough can ruin user experience.
Lower discharge per pack means you either need to use max discharge per pack, reducing the life of it or have less power overall
Buuut the plus side is that i dont have a friggin 15 kg board to take with me when i have to walk stairs ( which is a lot) and dont forget to open doors of my flat with a 15 kg board in one hand, keys in my mouth and my groceries in the other.
Its just not better or worse, its what you want in a board
What kind of range are you swapping in lmao, 15kg board You can get like a 50 mile range or more. 9kg board you can do well over 20 miles. Swappable batteries are normally crappy, like 10s2p 30q or worse, if you just use say 10s3p 40t which isnt much bigger or heavier youll get the same range as 2 of the swappable batteries , plus all the listed benefits
They had that due to using A123 LiFePO cells, that have a really flat discharge curve and low internal resistance, the downside is that for the same weight as the 12S1P 99Wh they use, you can almost have a 350 ish Wh 10S3P
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