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Let’s look at how those cells perform. Using this table (20700/21700 Battery Ratings | E-Cigarette Forum) we can get the actual performance numbers for each at the power levels you will run at.

A 10P pack being used at up to 100A will start to get some voltage sag with some of the poorer 5Ah cells. I’m not worried about any of the cells you’re considering when at 60A. That means we need the Wh (energy) data from the table for the cells at 10A each…

Molicel P42A = 11.4Wh
Samsung 40T = 11.7Wh
Samsung 50E = 11.1Wh (estimated)
Samsung 50E2/50E3 = 12.2Wh
Lishen LR2170SD = 11.4Wh
BAK N21700CG-50 = 12.9Wh

The Samsung 50E will probably perform the worst. Not by a lot but it’s not a great cell. The Samsung 50E2 or 50E3 are much better performers though so you might want to confirm which cell you can buy.

The BAK looks like your best choice at 10A (100A for a 10P pack). It can deliver at least 9% more energy/run time than the other cells you listed.

The Samsung 50E2 or 50E3 would be my second choice.

The higher current rated 4Ah cells are best used at higher power levels where their better efficiency (lower internal resistance, less voltage sag) help to keep the pack voltage up and to compensate for their lower capacity. At high power levels the 4Ah cells will easily run for longer than the 5Ah cells.

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Great info as usual!

I would also suggest the Samsung 50G and Samsung 48x for OP to consider (avail in EU)… I think they would both outperform the junky 50E

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why not weld it?

also, welds look weak
(solder joints look cold too)

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Dude it looks like u got some 3 day old jizz on your wire and nickel there buddy

Fuck man I ain’t seen nun dat bad in uh while nowmsayin

Whichever is the heavier gauge.
Is that braid actually Solder-Wick?

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Looks like it. Unless it’s just regular untinned copper braid…

However judging from the level of work, I’d say more likely to be wick. And not the Wick that you hire to kill the Boogey Man.

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Yeah I figured solder wick was just braided copper so why not

Thank you for your words of encouragement.

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I had 4 strips of nickel making the connection but the bend to make this a flat pack made me uneasy and I was worried it would snap as a bend is a point of stress.

My soldering iron is turned up to max and the tip is always shiny and clean, idk how much hotter I can make these solders. Passes pull test just fine. It’s probably just not shiny because my garage is like 2 degrees

idk bout others

but i solder at ~360°C on my joints, and they come out pretty much as perfect as my experience gets em
you sir need some flux. what solder are you usin?

I use a flux pen, tip tinner and flux-core solder. Soldering iron dial says 420 degrees

what type of solder tho?
60/40, 63/37, or something else

you should get some 60/40 or 63/37

lead free is fine but it’s much harder to work with
oh wait

you’re using silver solder???

Good god we haven’t seen this in some time

Using solder wick as copper braid

Using silver (plumbing?) solder as… solder

99.9% cold joints

I’m feelin it now mr krabs

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I’ll pick some up tomorrow. Anything that makes soldering easier or nicer needs to be added to my inventory. I can’t wait until my new iron comes in.

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ya throw that silver solder out

it’s useful, but not in this use case

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btw

your solder has 0 flux in it

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Another question, I have no problems welding one layer of nickle but I can’t seem to get 2 layers to stick every time (they stick to the probes but not eachother) what should I set the spot welder to for 2 layers of nickle?

Settings are
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