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I will have two 12awg wires for series connections. Just to be safe, I will have every series connection have 1 bntechgo wire and 1 aliexpress so there is always 1 quality tested wire for each connection. I feel confident that they are the same but I have no experience with this stuff.

Perhaps I can also touch the insulation after the battery is running after setting up the vesc tool and see if they heat up the same? Or can I measure the voltage difference across both series connections and it should be zero as they are both connecting the same two p groups? Or is it better to measure current and they should both split the current equally (be the same) when transferring the energy between p groups?

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Has anyone here gotten their hands on/tried the smart daly bms? Just saw this thing on aliexpress and it piqued my interest.

New stock!

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Order placed… bro quit stocking dope shit. I could have probably saved some cash by driving across the bridge and picking shit up :joy:

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I’m not sure if I’m wrong about this, but naturally I’m doubting myself. Generally I keep negative commentary to myself as well. I likely should have in this case. Anyway, I criticized a pack posted on the KWeld FB group, specifically the build and welding. It looked fairly rough, and the mention of it being a pack the person made for someone else pushed me to comment.

Am I wrong in thinking that this is sloppy work? Reflecting back on it, I feel like a bit of a prick for saying anything in the first place. But mostly now I’m thinking I could just be actually wrong about the welds on the shoulders and centers. I get really paranoid when I build for other people, so I’m sure there’s a high level of :eyes: when I’m looking at packs these days.

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It definitely isn’t up to snuff for the builds done around here. I don’t think your wrong for raising concern, especially knowing this could be in the hands of someone unsuspecting.

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Yeah thats nickel carrying the series connection, I dont think thats going to work for more than 20-30 welds before burning up strip of 10mm nickel.

Well speaking of battery blunders, did I totally shit the bed here guys. As I mentioned before I totally forgot to put rings on these cells. The battery cell holders are solid as fuck now and aren’t going to come apart nicely. The Molicel have a plastic isolation ring already under the shrink. Being this is a rigid pack going in an ebike, what are your thoughts on not using rings ?

Looking like you haven’t welded or done anything permanent, so I’d personally wiggle the frame off and take an afternoon to put the rings on. Couple cups of a hot drink and mindless TV that you don’t need to pay attention to, and it’s an easy job.

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I have never seen any insulation rings on commercial packs like the makitas or Milwaukee power tools if it makes you feel any better.
There is a thick insulation ring there in place under the wrap already.

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Yeah, I think this would be fine… the plastic rings in most cells are really sturdy, and the cells being in holders plus the less vibratory environment an ebike is let’s me think that this is fine. Just my two cents though.

Also the pack posted above looks like shit, but if it’s just sitting around and not moving, also no high amps, its gonna be fine, no? More info on what its for is what is needed to make a good claim if its it’s good or nah.

Use-case is everything. I wouldn’t trust that pack in anything that moves, but if it’s a powerwall or a back up battery or something, then it’s probably fine.

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How easy/hard is it to mold the ring down against the top of the cells in that holder? You might be able to get them down onto the cell anyway?

That’s actually a good idea. I’ll try that first !

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If that doesn’t work you could always just cut arcs of fishpaper ring out and put those down onto the exposed parts of the cell tops.

A total PITA but if the frame isn’t coming off then it might be another option. Takes a long time but is easy to do in front of good movie. :grin:

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I am trying to figure out if there is a clean way to design a 12S3P, P42A pack for an Eboosted Bustin Sportster MKII enclosure. Pics for reference:


It looks like the enclosure is designed to hold 8 across (perfect for 4P) and I am not sure if there is a good way to maximize the leftover free space with a 3P battery design. Please forgive my ignorance, perhaps this is not as complicated as I am making it out to be.

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@Skyart - Was this configuration too much of a PITA to consider?

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Don’t do it, not worth at all

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TBH it hurts my head a bit just looking at it, but I applaud your creativity!

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By far the hardest pack I’ve ever built…by faaaaar, needed to be in that shape and flexible…I don’t think it ever got put to use tho. Looking back at it, I would have done some things very differently

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