The battery builders club

Almost done processing these stupid ass fake HG2s . I’m going to make my last 18650 pack ever, ride it till it gets shitty, and then throw it in the ocean. (Bestbuy recycling).

I have derelictrobots pcb to use. I’ll film it and post a sick clip never.

I’ve been using these losers for headlamp duty here and there to be honest.

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Why you don’t want to make 18650 packs anymore?

There are better cells to work with. No offense to @glyphiks, ain’t nobody got time to work on 14s14p packs.

I also suspect the 40t, 42a, and 21700/20600 whatever market has less knockoff cells circulating in it than the 18650 market.

If you get a sick, sick deal on 30Qs, do it, it’s not a bad cell, but for a performance pack, there are easier options.
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30q still offer pretty outstanding power to weight ratio. Fight me.

Edit: in a larger pack when we’re not pulling 100a continuous. We are mere mortals Mike.

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The log shows total amperage for 4 motors or amperage per motor?

224a battery max? 305a max motor amp?

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Molicel 21700 P42A 4200mAh 45A Battery $ 5.99 a cell vs Samsung 40T 21700 4000mAh 35A Battery $3.99 a cell. Whats the difference performance wise.

Did you test the cells or just charge em up? I’ve still been running them in a 12s8p, and pulling 100A from them makes them sag 6v. Not sure if that’s bad or not… BMS says they are barely even getting warm after a ride, at most 5-6 C above ambient.

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P42A’s will give a bit more run time vs 40T’s down to 3.2V. Temperatures within a degree-C or two from each other. 30T’s the better (more efficient) choice above about 25A or so.

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https://www.bulkbattery.com/molicel-p42a-21700

$4.80/cell

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Seems like both are pretty much the same. But one is $1 more per cell.

Quick vibe check before continuing. kWeld set to 60J on 0.2mm nickel strip, on a test cell I didn’t get shredding until ~65J range, which I think is pretty high compared to the ~30 I used for 0.15 nickel.

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30J*(0.2mm/0.15mm)^3 ~= 70J. I am not an expert in spot-welding at all but seems fine to me

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Hm… Mine welded fine at 42j, 50 was too hot, on 0.2.

Is your battery fully charged?

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This was done at just over nominal voltage, ~3.75 ish. Below 60J I can still easily pull off the nickel but the welds just look a tad hot to me.

This is total Battery amps for 2 stormcores and total motor amps between 4 motors. this however was likely only held for a fraction of a second

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Looks like the Samsung 30T beat them both, I’m looking for high torque and hill climbing ability at stable temps. Thanks for the reply

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Anyone knows some good promo codes for batteries.

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“I own a large battery manufacturing plant and I would like to inquire about a sample of your product before placing a 5 figure order” has worked well for me.

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we need a “battery good deals thread”

I guess you have not found bulkbattery.com yet?

(they don’t do codes pretty much ever but have the best prices)

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definitely. I spent like $50 more than I could have when I bought from liionwholesale

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