Holy fuck they are going to be at esk8con
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These are sliiiightly different than 3-links. Instead of using a heim joint as the pivot for the hanger, they use a roller bearing to yaw the hanger and a pin similar to channel trucks to roll the hanger.
However, pitch of the hanger is prevented by the pin, whereas 3-links can pitch freely. I’m not sure what this translates to in real riding feel, but I believe it would eliminate the return-to-center effect when on the throttle that 3-links are known for.
edit: the links are also spring loaded and free to vary their length?? I have no idea how that could possibly be predictable…
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Tight 
@MacKeeper28
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They were at ESK8Con last year as well and curiously didn’t seem to be getting much attention, positive or negative, even though they were right out front.
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Gotcha I guess I’m late to the party then. I was there but was so busy with trying to get my board ready that I payed no attention to vendors of any sort. @MacKeeper28
I may dislike stooge, but filing a patent over something that wasnt your original work is a dick move and deserves to be treated as such.
If they just built their product and left it at that, fair game, bit close to a copy but its competition. Filing a patent though? Nah. Asshole move.
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Patent is a waste of money on three link design now as prior art exists. Unless their approach is super novel somehow, it seems like a total dumbass move rather than a dick move
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You take that back, my 137cm, 2000w skateboard is not dumb
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US Patents are now first to file. Anyone with prior art may be grandfathered but it may actually not. And if these guys are willing to put up $20k for a patent, they might be willing to sue.
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Wow that’s lame. All hail capitalism I guess
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Im fairly certain that it’s still only the novel modification to an existing use case that is protected by the patient, but im not a lawyer. Three link trucks in relation to skateboard trucks have been in production and for sale for years now id think it would be a pretty steep hill to climb to claim any infringement. What it could do is box in any further development from sharing similar solutions if there is anything novel worthy of coping in the patent.
Probably nothing will come of it.
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It’s a pretty ignorant move by them to patent something that already exists, invented years prior by someone else with a well documented record.
They would get laughed out of court trying to defend that patent.
First to file doesn’t mean you can patent something that has been around for 10 years. Patents require novelty (at least to be defensible)
A patent allow you to spend $500,000.00 to defend it…
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correct…after a year, a concept is no longer considered novel.
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These guys bought a set of DH trucks from us in 2022.
To their credit their design is unique to itself. They took time to follow a thought process to its end.
The 3-link design is a 100% mechanical controll that confines the hanger to a precesion yaw, roll, and pitch movement at the hanger pivot center. Without roll pitch or yaw the function will bind.
With a pivot pin the hanger can only make a pitch movement.
(A pivot pin in a critical fulcrum area will likely create weak point for the hanger)
The carrier torrington bearing used on their kingpin allows for hanger Yaw. (We used torrington bearings as spindle support in auto racing. A constant maintenance item.)
Whats missing is hanger Roll
To keep from binding Without hanger Roll, as you tilt and steer the radius rod lengths would need to lengthen as steering angle increases. Their answer is sprung radius rods.
My personal opinion is this is brilliant stupidity.
Is it a copy? I think they did their best to take a steering concept
and approach it in a different way. A workaround to a steering system.
I dont appreciate these guys stating this. It is certainly untrue.
Definitely much much much more innovation, thoughtfulness and honesty with skatboards electric than this.
If you need something unique and fabricated. It is likely that we can oblige.
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The level of childishness to poke shots at a guy who’s publicly standing with you and defending your interests is beyond me.
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Annnd… back to this bullshit.
Do i need to publically call you out again? Reply like a man, or fuckoff. I’ll wait. I’ll even pay for the lube for you to go fuck yourself if you want to take that stupid route.
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I’ll happily donate a few dollars to the cause. Seriously fuck this guy, the sooner SRB fucks off into obscurity the better. It just means more revenue going to people actually trying to push the hobby forward instead of gatekeeping the right to progress with double standards and “poor me” attitude.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, a lack of innovation is how a hobby dies and @MoeStooge I haven’t seen innovation from you in years, all I see is standards of morality that only seem to apply when they benefit you but by which you have zero intentions of carrying yourself by. You cry about getting beat down by larger companies and your small business suffering yet you seem to have zero qualms with bullying smaller creators when doing so benefits you.
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Ahhh, so close. Had us on your side and then had to delve back into being hostile.
Thank you for ensuring myself, multiple other riders, and probably all of East Coast, will happily, NEVER support SRB. Supporting such a bad attitude would be such a disservice to everyone else in this hobby.
Easiest decision of our lives, aside from not relying on Home Depot part trucks.
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