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Yeah, and again, it’s no dealbreaker for me because I love the Revel Kit regardless of this little anomaly, but it’s all about confidence in the end, right? I’ll let you know how the ABEC 11 wheels work.

Ya I get that. I guess my only advice is just be aware that it happens and sacrifice the extra 2mph haha

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Not sure if it’s the same thing, but try re-pairing the remote. I think I had something similar going on and was instructed by Revel support to re-pair the remote, which seems to have fixed it for me.

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Alright, went out, some interesting findings. It’s actually not necessarily at full speed, it’s at full throttle that the oscillation starts. When I go 8 mph for instance, then hit full throttle, it right away starts with the wobbles / oscillations. Obviously, at full speed it’s more noticeable due to the higher speed, making me think it’s a speed thing. It isn’t, it’s the amount of power the engines are requested to give.

Other findings:

  • pairing the remote again doesn’t make a difference
  • ABEC 11 97 mm Flywheels don’t make a difference
  • riding in reverse (so motors in the front) doesn’t make difference
  • it’s only in speedmode 4 that this happens (makes sense, lesser speedmodes request lesser power from the engines of course)

I haven’t really maintained the bearings with speedcream yet, could that make a difference? (I’ve ridden a total of 300 km thus far)

Huh. Weird, on mine, I full throttle all the time and have never had that issue, I’ve only heard of it happening at full speed. I only use speed mode 4

Hi Matt:

I’ll throw a few theories at you. You tell me if one of them sticks:

  1. Your deck is way too short for top speed on a Revel Kit. This is your set up right?
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  2. I notice you have a short deck and a kick tail. That makes things a little complicated for acceleration and speed. You also added the observation that you get you wobble under acceleration at any speed. So let’s work with that. When you accelerate, your weight is going to shift rearward and if you rear foot is on the kick, the weight shift will be very much accentuated. It is possible that the source of your wobble is a result of the reduction of weight on the front trucks. You might experience the wobble at the rear because that’s where your weight is…but the wobble may be originating from a floating front end.

  3. You have probably seen me do my 50 kph run on the 4WD Tarib Revel Kit. Its long and heavy and stable. Despite that, I usually move my rear foot forward of the kick for the majority of my rides – especially for speed. When I anticipate needing to kick steer, I switch back to the kick. I’m not sure how you ride but you are in a bit of a catch 22. If you ride the kick, you will be lightening the front end and reducing your straight line stability. If you don’t ride the kick then your stance wil be very narrow. A narrow stance is also going to make it hard for you to distribute your weight evenly under acceleration. Added to that you have a short wheel base which also reduced straight line stability.

  4. So I have a few experiments for you to try:
    a) Longer deck or extend the deck that you have by extending the front end. Take a look at the surf adapter and make you own with a piece of hardwood or aluminum.
    b) Evaluate your drive axles for a slight bend, If one of your axles is bent then you would feel the wobble more under acceleration than coasting.
    c) You have swapped your bushings. keep in mind that…
    Edit…Taller bushings (Deck side) would sharpen the rake angle of the trucks with potential for oversteering…Edit
    Try switching to the original bushings – then repeat your slow speed acceleration test.

  5. Do lubricate your bearings frequently. A freshly lubricated Revel Kit is completely different in a really good way. Dry bearings might not be causing your wobble but everything is better on a well oiled machine.

  6. The suggestion to repair your remote is a good one. However, make sure that you do the repairing at a distance from your cell phone, garage door opener, etc. Pairing your remote inches from your cell phone is one way to have problems during your ride.

So that’s alot of theories. Try them out. Let me know what you think.

Any power bank works. Even the really small ones. I find they charge up the Revel Kit remote faster than wall chargers.Some power banks advertize the fact that they charge devices faster than wall chargers.

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@pkasanda, actually this is me. The shorter Earthwing deck that you’re referring to was the deck my kit came with. Swapped that out immediately for a proper, long and stiff deck. (Olson & Hekmati FD100 from Germany)

Despite that, your tips are very valuable. Must say I just did 22 km on the kit, and also tried out stuff you are referring to, like sweight shifting. When I floor it, I’m definitely on my front leg, on the front part of the deck. I’ve checked the axle, they’re straight. I will test going back to the original bushings though, great idea. Additionally, lubing up before entering, always a good idea, you’re right. :joy: And lastly, I’ve paired again twice this evening, but with my phone around. Will do that again, with the phone switched off.

Thanks all, for thinking along! Really love how involved and knowledgeable everyone here is!! :raised_hands:

The extra weight doesn’t really bother me. If it was beyond 30lbs it would but it’s not.

4WD was worth it to me cause I wanted the highest amount of torque & the highest range.

The 4WD Revel is superior in all metrics to my old Boosted Stealth whereas the 2WD version is not.

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PS, I wrote it backwards. Taller bushings (Deck side) would sharpen the rake angle of the trucks with potential for oversteering. Shorter bushings (Deck side) would streatch out the rake angle and slow down the steering.

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I have this exact same issue at around speeds of 23-26mph. But ONLY when under acceleration, not when i’m actually going that fast, (like down a steep hill for instance) but when i am trying to accelerate past that under power. So i can’t feel safe at all going past those speeds because it feels like the board is gonna throw me off from speed wobbles. I think it might be the sloppy kingpin bolt, so i need to order a tighter fitting one to see if that fixes it, or try to epoxy it in.

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I actually agree here, if you look at the hole it is quite large, could be that

I have the same problem around that speed as well. It felt like speed wobbles, but not really, it was weird. Your reasoning makes sense though, When I loosen the trucks quite a bit (at least the front truck), which is was I tend to like, the axel seems to be almost like “not completely attached” or it seems like it’s slipping from the center. I could be wrong, but what you said made me think of it.

Yeah, totally matches my usecase as well. It’s really only under full acceleration in speedmode 4, when I’m in speedmode 3 and I floor it, it’s as smooth as J-Lo’s ass.

try this in reverse (FWD), you’ll find ZERO issues. I know I know, you don’t wanna…

I try to force speed wobbles to occur by kicking the tail out a little at high speed - it refuses to give me any! :rofl:

Would you really want the king pin to be flush up against the inside of the truck / base plate. I would expect a great deal of metal on metal ratteling. The trucks have a recess for the pivot bushings. In theory, that recess should keep the kingpin centered regardless of how large the opening through the trucks is.

I definitely get the high speed speed wobble with the stock bushings because I out weigh those bushings. With aftermarket bushings that match my weight and a proper length of board, the board is rock solid up to 50 kph.

I’ve never had the acceleration wobble.

I don’t know. Maybey i’m wrong. Maybe a kingpin that had a tight fit with the baseplate would have some advantaged. I do hear some metal on metal ratteling on my horible roads. Maybe it is the kingpin clanking inside the base plate.

It’s not that I don’t wanna, I’ve tried this, really! To me it doesn’t matter whether the kit is FWD or RWD, but I get oscillations from the engines in speedmode 4, under max load, regardless. But I know, you’re a huge advocate for FWD, which is awesome!

Have you checked the tightness of the four bolts on the kegel adapters? Have you checked that the four bolts are installed? If your problem only happens under hard acceleration then I would suspect that the cogs in the adapter are sliping and catching.

Checked and they’re secure. I’ve checked practically everything you can check…

can you take some video and share it? Video? What you are describing is wierd. It sounds like the motor power is toggeling left and right under hard acceleration. I’ve never experienced anything like that.