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The goalposts have moved…

However, I’ll indulge you one last time, then I’m done with this.

Correct. As you’ve pointed out many times,

This means that compatible hardware from various manufacturers runs VESC firmware. I shouldn’t use Spintend Tool or MakerX Tool to program my VESC-based ESC from one of these manufacturers; I should use VESC Tool, distributed by its author, Benjamin Vedder.

This does indeed force noobs to go get a programming tool from somewhere else, very similar to how I would still use the Arduino IDE to program a compatible microcontroller that is not Arduino branded. I don’t see how this is an unacceptable or unprecedented arrangement.

But you’re absolutely right, being a noob to programming a VESC-based ESC, even with the correct firmware file, is not easy at all. It was quite a steep learning curve for me, and I’m glad my ESCs survived the journey.

I would come to the forums to read up on how to program my ESC. I would find an overwhelming majority of people telling me not to use the latest firmware. Using the only version of VESC Tool easily accessible to me (the latest one from Vedder’s website), I would find the firmware archive and load an old firmware version onto my ESC. If the firmware was not included in the archive, I would go to the hardware manufacturer’s website to find a custom firmware file for the version I wanted. After the older firmware was flashed, I would configure the essential settings, including my remote, with no error messages making me think I had to update my firmware.

If I was a noob one year earlier, I would’ve gone through similar steps, but it would’ve been much more difficult to load an older firmware version than current, due to VESC Tool only including the latest firmware at that point. If I got lucky and my ESC came with an older, more tested firmware, I would likely overwrite it with a newer version due to the error message that appears when setting up my remote and thinking I was required to upgrade.

So yes, my

But I have considered a noob’s perspective, and from that perspective I believe we should embrace new VESC Tool versions while simultaneously being wary of new firmware versions.

So, I would say that

is easier now than it ever has been, and your disagreement with that statement that you continue to spread is outdated and inaccurate. I would ask you to consider other perspectives on this matter, since using a newer version of VESC Tool undeniably allows easier access to a wider range of more tested firmware and less nagging for a user to change which firmware they choose to use. This creates an experience more conducive to everyone’s needs, especially noobs, and certainly not just mine.

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It Is though, particularly for a software meant for hobby people or people who do more than just using one button on the main page of an iphone app, it’s usual good practice to have a list of all the versions, a changelogg and a download link… doesn"t cost much either.

(Disclaimer I haven’t read the rest of the discussion but this particular phrase bugged me, I hate when a company or whatever decide that I have to be a “simple user” for my own good)

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Who wants to get this company to print some decks and enclosures.

https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/12uicvv/diy_3d_printed_longboard_out_of_100_recycled

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So has Lacroix essentially canceled the idea of an Android app? I hate Apple.

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I clicked thinking it was going to be utter shit. I’m genuinely astonished. That’s a freaking riot. Good share.

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Same. The same guy link to a site where they are selling planters… 3d printed carbon fiber planters…

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The IOS app hasn’t even be updated since they launched it. Plus the logs are mostly corrupted/crash the app after 12 or more miles. Metr or robogotchi are the answer.

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I was just looking for a way to update VESC settings without opening my enclosure. I’d install a USB passthrough if I had the room. The Stormcore app does do that, right?

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Stormcore app doesnt change any vesc settings that im aware of. I think that was their goal but thats never happened . The only adjustment are for real-time data/logged data. Battery configuration, wheel size/gearing for speed.

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Oh, bummer. I forget, is there a bluetooth module I can use to change VESC settings?

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Every stormcore Ive used has Bluetooth for vesc configurations. If you arent using stormcores there are options depending on the esc you are using.

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Oh, I’m looking in the VESC app, and under connections I see a bluetooth le tab, is that where I’d connect? Is this only available on PC? I haven’t used the VESC tool for Android.

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The vesc tool app they are using is slightly dated compared to now but the instructions should still follow almost the same.

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Thanks.

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The old test deck is at it again… thinking of countersinking these into the deck with a silicone seal… these ones are aluminium but should be ok countersunk and not deform right?

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Overcomplicating shit again

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Just because its complicated doesnt mean that it wont both look amazing or do the job intended tho

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Well, you won’t see them when a screw is installed plus they add nothing, so yeah. They probably won’t deform, but you’re just adding another point of failure.

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With all the rubber gaskets I don’t see why you’d want to tighten it down so tight to make it necessary. Man I built my octopus one afternoon after work and 6 beers and have ridden the shit out of it rain or shine ever since. No water issues. Keep it simple.

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It’d be pointless if you couldn’t see them, yes. I dont see any failure point beyond what was a hole originally