Project NGK - Parts List and Assembly.

WORK IN PROGRESS ////// NOT DONE. I’ve only put maybe an hour or two into this thread. Will be updating it with more parts and guides, 3d print files, and parts alternatives for those that may be out of stock or hard to come by.

Hello all! This is a serious thread dedicated to my board and others like it, known as NGK, or No Gate Keeping.

As the name implies, I want this to be a board that others can copy or take inspiration from in hopes of pushing this hobby forward faster and making racing more practical for people who don’t have around 2k to spend on just a chassis alone. While still not cheap, this raceboard is highly customizable to suit people’s needs. As developments are made by me and others, I will update the parts list and include files for 3d printing that people may want to implement

Project NGK members are encouraged to reply to this thread and forever claim their number and be a part of hopefully something great. Currently we have:

08 - @HAIRYMANJACK (Me :))

03 - @R2trivv

This project also highly encourages people to post their findings, pushing us all forward in hopes of improving esk8 racing as a whole.

One more thing, Amazon links here are affiliate links; they do help me, however small the amount is, and I would greatly appreciate their use.

Here we go!

Parts list:

Get a good set of tools for your raceboard; crappy tools or using the wrong tools are why shit falls apart or gets stripped. A few of the basics:

(Some of these are not the best of the best I know, but will be better than the 2$ Amazon special. If you have better cost-effective tool suggestions, please message me. I am happy to include them!)

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More to come, ARIGHT BOARD PARTS!!

Deck - Haero E-Specific Bro 96 Mountainboard Deck (I personally use the Apex collab, and that was shipped to @r2trivv when he ordered this, so they may be shipped interchangeably. They are the same deck, just a different skin.

Grip Tape - I use the big vicious squares as I find those easiest to cut out.

Binding - Can’t go wrong with @MBS F5 Binding. One thing, I use the opposite side for my foot (Regular for goofy stance and vice versa), it feels better for me on this deck. I also mount the nose side of the binding to the truck pattern as seen in the assembly section.

M6x10mm screw for binding into the deck. (Deck comes with pre-installed inserts)

Battery Box - This leaves some room for creativity. See the assembly section for more details.

Foam - For battery box. The pre-installed foam isn’t rigid enough for my liking.

Screws - For battery box. I recommend finding some oversized washers as well to support the box.

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Wiring - 8 awg silicone wire. The good stuff. Highly recommend using a 70 to 80-watt iron.

Junction Box - for the esc. I like this sizing, fits MakerX 2G300 with some dremmeling to the top, you can make your own solution too if you’d like.

The sizing is being wack on the link, choose the 7.9" x 4.7" x 2.95"in one.

Tinned Copper Lugs - For motors and battery wiring

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Crimper - Hydraulic crimp for said lugs. MAKE SURE YOU USE THE RIGHT SIZE AND MAKE SURE WIRES ARE TIGHT.

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VESC - Makerx 2G300, honestly, the standard now for high-power boards with a price that’s unbeatable.

3-Link Trucks @MoeStooge PLS RESTOCK THE LONG RODS. 30MM Mounts for Inrunners. Highly recommend using 85a/90a APS Combo for bushings with some variant of cup washer. I like the old ones that Moe used to make himself, milling out some of the bushing nut. Others do exist, though.

3-Link Extensions - By MBoards

Hoyt Puck - my go to remote. Have yet to have an issue so long that I’m not throwing it around with the occasional floor meetings

8x M5x25mm Cap Head Bolts for mounting 3-Link Trucks to Extensions

M5x35mm Hex Bolts for Truck Assembly to Deck

M5 Nylock Nuts

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Motors - Hobbywing 56118 650kv X2

Sensor Adapter for Motor X2 - NEED TO CRIMP OR SOLDER JST-PH 2mm CONNECTOR TO WORK WITH G300

JST-PH Crimp Kit - I bought this exact one. Wish I had done this sooner.

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11t Mod 1.5 8mm Bore Pinion - For motors, recommend this gearing 11/78.

Spur Gears 78t Mod 1.5 - Can be mounted to standard esk8 hubs with Linn adapter or to BRP hubs for BRP Tires.

Batteries - Once again, creative freedom, I highly recommend keeping it light. This is a raceboard, not a cruiser. To put it bluntly, you’ll need to pick a struggle in whether you want a board that feels heavy and gets a lot of range, or a board that has very little range but feels snappy and responsive on the track, leading to better times. I use 4 of these wired in series for 16s1p

You can also do a 2p of this, but once again, weight.

If you must run 21700, I would recommend a 3p pack to compensate for the voltage sag that 21700 cells have.

You can also run a BMS for Lipos. A guide for that will be included here in the future!

ASSEMBLY:

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How well does this works compares to Locite 648?

Edit: Nvm, idk why your link is showing the ESKONKE brand instead of Loctite.

Edit 2: Any reason why you chose stainless steel hardware vs alloy steel?

I use the eskonne one and it works well. Don’t know if there is a major difference between that and the genuine but happy to change if there is!

And as for the stainless hardware I was debating between that and the stainless and to avoid corrosion / rust I chose stainless. Personally I don’t think the load requirements are that high to warrant the alloy steel. Once again though if I’m wrong please let me know! Happy to learn!

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WOOO Jack’s on the forum

Awesome post, love the documentation.

Got pictures of the boards?!

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Yes yes I am alive! Usually a lurker lol, and yes board photos coming soon!

Tbh if everything works for you I’m not gonna say anything. I’m not the guy who won 1st in Pro class. :joy:

Thanks for making this! What do you use to record data? Since my metr and megan have been buggin out i resorted to vesc tool via ble, open and screen recording and yours truly for gps stuff. Looking at the racebox s tho.

A racebox is the best investment if you care about analyzing laptimes. I recommend the racechrono pro app with it

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I’d recommend the RaceBox micro personally. Can do a simple 9 volt battery, run it off a 5v connection, a single cell … lots of options. Has internal stand alone recording, is super small, can hot swap a battery, is less than half the price. I really like having it. A little finnicky to get your head around the software flow but that’s the same on all models.

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@HAIRYMANJACK I want to know how much the nose weights affected stability etc., if you rode without them before the addition or if they were installed from the start. Ive toyed with idea of adding weight in front the axle like this but haven’t implemented it yet since I spend most of my time at short track speeds.

Absolutely love the all out in the open mindset, props to you @HAIRYMANJACK

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#16 heavily inspired by your setup. 35 degree ends on mine, a lil steep up front but was able to counteract that with a custom baseplate bracket. I used the mboards extension in the front and made my own slightly shorter one for the rear. I had a pretty nasty high speed crash recently at nationals so am currently rebuilding in 4wd configuration mostly for the brakes. Crash aside it’s been awesome so far.

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For anyone that hasn’t been keeping up, this is the setup @HAIRYMANJACK has clocked 70 mph on. I call this the Jack spec. Very high level performance, I’m really enjoying my new G300 56118 inrunner setup.

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Are there any videos of this? I wanna see the flyby.

Unfortunately not but I do have the racebox data to back it up, Vesc clocked me at 73 but gps on a racebox micro says 70 spot on. I do these with my girlfriend following me behind in a car to block the way and turn on hazards if I have a floor meeting

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LOVING THIS BUILD

the red and black is an insanely cool color scheme.

I highly reccomend adding front weight to the board, changing the center of mass from maybe 20% rear bias to pretty much dead center instantly gave me a few mph speed boost in terms of comfortability going that fast letting me get to 63 from 59 back when I was first figuring out vesc + inrunners.

I have about 2 pounds or almost a kilo on the front.

ALSO tire balancing helps a ton if you have not yet

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I thought you did it at TEF1 or something. Would had love to see a flyby shot.

Ive wondered what all that was on the front of your board. Maybe the 6468’s I’m throwing up front will have a similar effect. Have you gotten around to fitting thermistors to the motors yet? I’ve been wondering how far the 56118’s can be pushed or if we’re pushing them too far already. Currently 340 motor 200 battery

What are the settings in vesc “motor current max and absolute maximum current” for one motor?

340 motor 200 battery.

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