Problem with Slick Revolution/iWonder Cloud Wheels (SERIOUS)

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Can I also add your impact test only bashes the middle of the core in use stones hit the edges of the wheel and twist the core applying a different force thro the core witch could be worth investigating.

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@Hide If you need help for testing this wheel you can contact me. I am also in China.

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:-1::-1::-1: form over substance, looks over function

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aww cmon theres nothing inherently wrong with abec cores, it might not be optimal, but its holding up great in other wheels

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Wait till you encounter one that just doesnt fit your pulleysā€¦ there are a lot out there.

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isnt that only really a problem with budget / or ripoff wheels ?
i only used genuine abecs in various sizes and they all worked flawless - also never seen a cracked core on them

that being said i moved on to kegel also with the tb wheels, last set of abecs sitting in a corner shamefully

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Which brings me to the iwonder pointā€¦ since it is not a genuine abec core, the problem now is not fit and finish, but structural integrity and material stability. I can safely assume this wont happen with the kegel design using whatever material they are using. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome - literally flogging a dead horse here

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I wonder why a reversed Kegel core pully was designed OH YES, KEGEL COPPYS

Aluminium has a stronger strucal rating than steel because it can flex when steel equivalent shiers. Rigidity is not proportionate to durability in engineering it is often the opposite

Kegel core is not supper itā€™s different has different advantages and disadvantages iv seen more broken Kegel pullys than ABEC. Iv seen more broken Kegel pullys than broken I wonder cores. Your points are unfounded and with out merit or fact.

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Aluminium stronger than steel? Though irrelevant to this conversation , thatā€™s the first time i have heard of thisā€¦ lighter yes, but stronger? Is this why aluminium bike frames have to be so fat and steel can remain slender and thin?

Back to the topic, my kegel pulleys have the full 10 spoke design and is done in some strong plastic polymer material. Broken kegel pulleys you refer to are most probably the 5 spoke design which should probably explain everything. And maybe you are right these potentially broken pulleys should be in some other material other than steel in terms of the types of forces required to handle

Where are people seeing broken pulleys lol

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Shearing and bending are basic forces calculated in engineering all the time aluminium is better at counteracting shearing forses steel better at counteracting bending forces.

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Show me an aluminium frame as thin and minimal as this without all the weird curves and bulges (sorry going way off the rails here)
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Iv just provided you with a steel to aluminium scarf tube comparison for maximum force you must be part of this
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Come on nowā€¦ donā€™t be pulling out the race card just yet! It is a valid discussionā€¦ more than just a bunch of numbers this be. I donā€™t wanna wake @BluPenguin now either - heā€™s also a keen salesman for the Abec coresā€¦ but his take is more of looks, at least he admits it.

I can only guess but I imagine doing things wrong or with the wrong tool. seen bent and sheared pins in pic on the other forum. Canā€™t say I ever managed to do it my self. How often do people use a puller tool on the top lip instead of placing the arms all the way over.

Ive been around for a while. Still havent seen any broken wheel pulleys. Only shitty elofty stuff.

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Cool story

Quick search on the other forum

No.picture :joy:

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Iā€™m not exactly old