Since the Hub seemedb to run fine last night I decided to go ahead and add some red loctite to that bearing…
I expect this may minimize any play it may have in there.
And I can run it a bit longer, until I get a replacement in.
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That’s what retaining compound is for (648)
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Yeah yeah, I know.
I have that one too. And pondered using it.
But I like how the red is a bit more viscous.
So I wanted to use that…
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So yep. Vescing the Pint X yesterday was really cool.
It was the first time I had actually built with somebody.
I have had people hang around while I built before.
But I had never had a real collaboration like I had yesterday.
Daniel is the guy I ran into a while back that had a Vesc on a Pint platform. And he has the 22s Growler Vesc now, so he is quite experienced and capable builder.
I had the Pint X in it’s normal as state yesterday morning and had it Vesced and other updates by late afternoon.
The current updates on the PX were the Kush Nug Hi in the back, and the Hoosier slick recommended by @TheBoardGarage which was a great tire.
And I had peeled the plastic up front and added TFL grip tape.
Yesterday I added the Lil Foccer.
Flipsky XV1 remote.
And Enduro because I really like the Enduro on my GT and I liked the Pint Enduro on Daniels Growler.
lifesavers because I like the look…
And 2mm padded grip tape up front which is really nice.
Oh. And I got a broken Pint controller and box to harvest so I can keep the ones from mine intact.
I don’t really do much new in esk8, just mostly the same stuff over and over and it’s just usually bolting parts together, so I am pretty comfortable with most projects I take on and have a good vision.
With this Onewheel there were a lot of unknowns and new things to do, and new things to learn, which was both exciting and intimidating.
Like getting the motor and foot pad hooked up to the Foccer.
Sketchy…
Tiny soldering…
I harvested the board and plugs from the old Pint controller and Daniel soldered the little wires to it.
I would have had a really hard time doing this…
Taking the PX apart is fun. I really enjoy the design and how FM put it all together.
I am just using the stock PX battery with the BMS bypassed, which luckyly was super easy to do!!!
I would like to try to go higher voltage. Not sure what I could cram here.
Maybe a 17S2P with 18650s.
I hope Joey’s BMS becomes more regularly available in the future.
So we hook the battery up to the new box.
The Pint box had plenty of room for the lil foccer. And I got to tap something for the first time ever.
We tapped the box to bolt the little foccer down.
And the box is a heat sink.
I put fish paper all around.
And then we put the hub back with the rails to run detection.
We hook up over Bluetooth using the app on my Samsung phone.
Connection seemed really solid.
And we start detection.
And we come up Sensorless.
F#$k!!!
So we take off the front foot pad, and the cool thing is we can open up the box with the rails on.
And we get going with the multimeter.
And sure enough one of the 3 hall sensor wires was not getting connectivity through the board.
And this amazing, but Daniel is able to solder it to another spot on the board right behind where the motor connector comes in.
To a tiny little pin.
AND IT WORKS!!!
I would have never been able to do that…
But dude has lots of soldering experience.
And I cake that board with super glue to keep the tiny wires in place.
And here is the first picture of the PXVX alive!!!
Here is the other big deal here.
I don’t even know how long it would have taken me to learn and figure out how to set up and tune the lil foccer.
Holy shit, there was a lot going on.
But again, Daniel did all the heavy lifting.
And I just sat there with my jaw dropped.
After a million screens on the app he tells me it’s good to go and I hopped on it.
And it worked.
And it felt like a Onewheel,
And it felt totally Familiar.
Note I even broke out the Fox proframe, because new little death box means all the gear.
But is sure worked.
Daniel checked it out and fixed a couple more things.
I think he set me up with the standars float package and I have ATR on.
So we went and rode for 5 miles and It worked the whole time and I lived.
Daniel got it up to 20.
I think I only did 18.5
But it only had 80% battery when we started…
I made it up this grass hill I would not have looked at on the PX.
Besides that I did not push it very hard.
Oh, it handled going down steep hills amazingly. Like perfect control.
The tire is nice.
The padded grip tape is nice.
Al @glyphiks I thought about what you said a lot while doing this.
It’s a sin to take apart a perfectly working board.
But man.
So far so good.
And it certainly seems like quite an upgrade.
I got a full charge and went out again today despite it being freaking cold 38f 3c. And windy as hell.
And I did 7 miles.
Once again in full armor.
And I survived.
Today I got to 19.8
Pretty sure I had not hit 18 on the PX.
When the battery gets lower the push back comes on pretty early.
But I felt very confident in the ride the whole time.
And the way it feels is nice.
And I have not even got into tuning.
So, pumped.
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Is it not the case, that the way you bypassed the BMS there, bridging those positive posts of the XT60, disables its ability to cut charging for abnormal conditions like overvoltage, undervoltage, etc.?
Far as I know, FM BMSs switch on the high side, and bypassing that path bypasses the charge protections.
Or is the Pint X BMS different? I’m not entirely familiar with the nuances of that particular model.
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I am not sure @TheBoardGarage .
I am under the impression it’s going to continue working as normal, except for the discharge.
I am blindly following what others have done.
Most of my inspiration came from Surf dados video.
And I believe he indicates charging and balancing work the same.
I have not verified that any further.
So I am now curious if I need to be concerned. Especially since the Pint is in my house most of the time.
See around minute 5:30
Ah, yeah.
That does bypass the BMSs ability to stop charging. I remember now, there’s an alternative way to wire it to avoid that, by using a split from the main XT60 off the pack, and fully bypassing the BMS for discharge.
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So can you help me understand the possible risk there?
If the FM charger malfunctions it could go past the 62.25 volts?
Or what could happen?
Essentially, yes.
If the cells become overly spread out in their voltages, and a group or more become over charged, the BMS does not have access to the switch to cut charging.
Same for other errors or issues that would lead to it disallowing charge.
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For most people yeah. But when you have 743 spare boards i guess it’s not so bad.
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The latest darling is really delightful.
Wow.
This little Vesced Pint X is so much fun
I did 7 miles around the playground and 4 later on with my neighbor.
I can’t even compare it to the regular PX
So much more confidence
Q
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Yep.
It was a Onewheel heavy week.
I did go out on the Flux for a 19 mile lunch break ride early in the week.
I even did some Gravel Flux type stuff with it.
And it does it just fine…
The Flux rode great.
The DV6P continues to work fine as far as riding goes.
And it continues to be weird as far as connecting to the app goes…
The MBS hub did not make any clicking noises
So good stuff there.
I slept wrong and jacked my neck up because getting old is so cool.
So I didn’t ride a day and have not really tinkered any…
The little Vesc Pint is especially impressive off road.
It can just go wherever you want.
Remarkable torque and control.
This is totally adorable if you ask me…
Part of the reason it’s been a Onewheel heavy week is I actually have buddies that ride them and come around.
So I got to ride the 22S growler build again and it’s so freaking nice.
The growler seems like the perfect standing platform.
And off we went Onewheeling in the rain.
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More Onewheel mumbo jumbo…
I Jailbreaked my GT…
I had not done anything like that since my early days on Android…
I flashed Rewheel on the GT which writes some patches in the FM firmware and you can do some modifications to how the wheel rides.
It raises the pushback speed, so I don’t get pushback at 19.
And it gives access to custom shaping.
I have managed to go slightly faster than before.
Not by much.
But the way the pushback feels is way better.
So I am extra stoked on the GT.
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How does the VESCed Pint feel compared to the GT?
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So here is a shocker.
More Onewheeling today.
Took the Pint to the little trails we like to ride and it totally killed it.
At lunch break I met up with Daniel and we went to the same trails…
And he killed it on his Growler.
And then he killed his Growler going off a bonk…
dRV over current fault…
After school pick up on the Gravel Flux I went and did 10 miles on the Llama.
And it was sweet.
I took it easy and it was more of a mellow carvy cruise and it was really nice ride the Llama like that.
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Tiny dude.
Mostly tiny.
That is the biggest difference.
The standing platforms are such a different size.
The GT is a boat.
But I swear right now the Pint feels more capable off road.
The custom shaping on the GT helped it a lot.
But I am amazed at the Pint. It can go wherever I point it and it has such torque and precise control.
Before the Vesc the pint was a bummer on the road because the pushback came on so early and was so aggressive.
But now… That is gone.
And off road it had way less umpf than the GT, and now it just climbs.
Really crazy how much it opened it up.
For a couple days there I was more stoked on the Pint. But Rewheel made the GT extra exciting again.
And I can do nosedrags on the GT now with the remote tilt…
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Yesterday I met someone from here in real life.
@Colson003 was in town and hooked up to go ride…
Low and behold we rode freaking Onewheels…
@Colson003 has an XR that is pretty much stock except for this magical tire…
The Nimbus Hoosier.
And his board felt so freaking good.
FM really did something special with the XR.
I had to change so much shit on the GT to get it to be good…
It was really fun ripping around campus late at night!!!
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I got out on the Khymera today.
10 miles or so.
Feeling great.
I really like the combo of the 7 inch evolve tires and the Tommi Boi Hubbas.
Then we went to little celebration for earrh day they have downtown and I took the PXVX and I think I am ready to just do away with walking.
The little Vesced Onewheel performed so well in tight spaces with crowds and on bumpy grass.
It was such a treat to tool around in it the whole time…
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