Moe Stooge Wheel System

When I was using some of their stuff for robotics I had the exact opposite experience, stuff always breaking. But maybe the big pulleys are alright I never used stuff at that scale.

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Kegal pattern was a pain in the ass. If anyone has a simple off the shelf suggestion for a metal pulley opton Iā€™m open.
The vex is an easy fit. I really have no personal experience with belts but by looking at the material, Iā€™d say sub par to metal.
They are pretty dang inexpensive.

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Wouldnā€™t the fivestar bolt pattern fit on the hub? Plenty of alu pulley options there.

Or make an adapter for it.

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Five star would need an adapter.
That sounds like a better option than the versa.

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BRP race wheels in stock.
50a fronts 45a rears :checkered_flag:
ltd. supply till the next batch rOLLs in.

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Donā€™t see it in the site - whatā€™s the BCD of the mounting holes in the wheels? How big are the mounting holes? How big is the large hole in the center?

@Cyanoacrylate

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Even better, Thanks!

In case this helps anyone, looks like the nominal dimensions are:

BCD - 25/16"
Hole ID - 7/8ā€
Mounting holes - #10 clearance

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interesting to see the tire without the hub.

who is gonna run these?

Moe wheels arrived. Yay! I ordered last Wednesday and they arrived today, i.e. in 6 days from the USA to the Czech Republic. Thatā€™s a great delivery time. Thanks @MoeStooge for getting them shipped out so quickly.

Now, these wheels are an absolute monstrosity. :laughing: They make all wheels that I have look like dwarves. Including AT pneu wheels that is. Here they are side by side with my Trampa hubs + Metroboard 155mm pneu:

I couldnā€™t wait to test them out so I at least quickly swapped the front wheels and went for a short ride. Here are my initial impressions.

The feel is very similar to pneumatics. The comfort is about the same. I went over some interlocking pavement and the ride was very smooth. On the markings for blind people they actually feel even better than pneumatics, probably thanks to the very wide profile.

Consumption seems to have gone slightly up, but only slightly. I averaged 20 Wh/km on very cautious riding (the roads are frozen so no crazy stuff). With pneus, I would have been around 18 Wh/km.

One annoyance is that the wheels like to send little rocks flying. That happened a lot during the test ride. I was glad for my glasses.

Other than that I do like the wheels. I think Iā€™ll keep them on for my daily commuting. Obviously they are primarily designed for racing. I should be able to test them out on a short track in February if I can get the drivetrain sorted out until then. I can print some pulleys for them but Iā€™m afraid I wonā€™t be able to fit them on my rear axles. This is my current situation there. :laughing:

Conveniently though, @Savage1 might let me test his new TKP trucks if I behave myself. :slight_smile: And those have much longer hangers, which should help a lot.

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Gotta be some kind of Record. Planets must have been aligned. Glad it all got there safe.

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You know it :metal:
50mm of axel enough for those?
@MoeStooge, who did you use for shipping?

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Probably enough for the front wheels but the hub on the rear wheels is 55mm wide. Maybe I can use a shorter bearing spacer and move the inner bearing more inside the hub. The hole in the hub is 28mm in diameter and the octogon at the end of your trucks is 22mm so the hub should be able to rotate around that without colliding.

UPS. I too ship with UPS. They are pretty good but very expensive if you donā€™t have an UPS account and only use them as a one-off.

No, that wonā€™t work. Thereā€™s a bearing seat and the bearing canā€™t go further inside the hub. :frowning:

@janpom My thoughts are that the outside bearing should be as close as possible to the load center of the wheel.
The outside bearing pocket could be machined and the bearing spacer could be shortened to accommodate your spindle length. A longer spindle would be the best solution.

@Savage1 ups has been mostly reliable for international. 6 days is mind blowing.

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I designed a simple pulley:

Hereā€™s the STL file:

stooge_wheel_pulley_44T.stl (880.3 KB)

Itā€™s 44T, 19mm wide. Works great with M4x25 countersunk head bolts since they go almost all the way into the hub (the thread is 10mm deep). I have a parameter driven model and can change both the number of teeth and the width. Let me know if you need an STL with another parameters.

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Could you post the parameter model instead? :smiley:

Here you go. Itā€™s a bit flaky though. Sometimes weird things happen when you change parameters and it requires a little bit of manual post-processing to fix it.

stooge wheels pulley v2.f3d (496.2 KB)

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Thank you!

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