Storm in a tea cup.
Dkp is used by how many different vendors?
Rkp? Tpk, Channels? (I didn’t see anyone carrying on when onsra released theirs) and now 3 link. It was always going to happen at some point.
Storm in a tea cup.
Dkp is used by how many different vendors?
Rkp? Tpk, Channels? (I didn’t see anyone carrying on when onsra released theirs) and now 3 link. It was always going to happen at some point.
I’m sorry, but I have to insist a bit here. The minimizing of the blatant copying is pretty transparent, especially when looked at side by side.
Acedeck:
LaCroix:
Acedeck:
Land Surf:
Acedeck:
MBS:
In your review, you dedicated like 10 seconds to the trucks, and just said the nuts were custom, they went all out, and the trucks were sweet.
And with 10 videos on your channel featuring Acedeck products, with affiliate codes, and it’s pretty clear what the situation is.
We all know how the game works. I used to be in it. And I don’t blame video makers for wanting to stay in the good graces of companies who give them free product. If that dries up, they can’t make videos anymore.
But going out with righteous indignation about 3 link trucks, when NewBee trucks are, in my opinion, more unique visually than the above image comparison, it just looks silly.
YouTubers make advertisements, stoke the hype, get their affiliate income. Totally respect that. But isn’t it a bit much to give another designer a headache because they’re clearly improving on what is a design comprised of commodity parts and mechanisms?
What we have here are apples and oranges. Two different topics.
Meepo is trying to patent the 3-link truck even though they did not invent them. This situation is similar to what Evolve did in Australia and their patent for carbon fiber decks/enclosures. If the patent is for China only, I am not really concerned. A Chinese patent would block other Chinese manufacturers from making 3-link trucks. The patent description, however, is in English. This tells me Meepo may be trying to get an international patent. Stopping this could get very expensive since it will involve lawyers and lawsuits.
What Newbee is doing is making their own version of he 3-link truck that is different from Stooge Racing. There is no patent on the 3-link truck system and development in a different direction is perfectly acceptable. In the end, healthy competition benefits the consumer and drives innovation in the market.
3-link.
Completely understandable. The price of he Stooge Racing trucks are very high at $600 a set. There are many factors behind that but he is currently working on a new set of trucks to address this issue. 3-link truck technology with a target price around $300.
I dont think a patent is doing anything if you can show that the same product already exist before. Correct me if I’m wrong.
In America at least this is true, I don’t know about international or China, all you have to do in America I think is talk to the patent office and provide proof that they patented something you were already selling and they will nullify the patent. You can only get a patent (legally) on a completely novel idea but a lot of those types of laws arent observed in china.
yeah i feel like all the HD stuff was done in response to problems and it solved them. They are pretty damn robust now.
My hd clamps hold 16kw of power i push across em. and they are adjustable angle and adjustble track width.
I’m curious if anyone can bend the HD baseplate bracket Smacking things into a curb. It’s significantly thicker.
Nothing matches the precision.
right i was wondering from the beginning if meepo would try to stop newbee since they are both in china and meepo may have the patent.
This looks like it was hammered out by Thor himself?
Wouldn’t be the first time Newbee and Meepo be butting heads. Meepo patented Newbee’s 4GS design only a couple months back as well (probably similar time to the 3-link patent)
Wouldn’t this be better as a single CNC’d part of the baseplate instead of this bent stuff? I really hope Moe is moving over to CNC it’s been too long imo. The trucks are incredible and I think deserve better construction
What’s Moe’s reason for avoiding CNC for all this time?
I think so, but redesigned a bit since it would be aluminum.
yeah, it would certainly market better.
Idk what the concerns would be. but I’m guessing things like cost of CNC at low runs, vs stuff he can do himself. (though the base seems cnc’d? but maybe it’s more simple milling? ) hopefully more connections will join forces with him, and he can do more stuff.
I hope whatever he comes up with next is all metric
Also please no threaded rods as hangers
Thats a very interesting thought, I haven’t seen pics so I don’t know how similar the meepo and Newbee designs are, something I’ve either missed or people have not mentioned yet is that meepo applied and was granted this patent over 2 years ago so who knows if they were just being a patent troll or they actually intend to put this into producing but they have had plenty of time to do so and I have heard no mention of them actually doing so.
“Meepo” or Shenzhen Dibushi Skateboard Co Ltd, the holder of the 3 link patent, has numerous patents of lots of different esk8 things, every patent has been copied basically though, if you look through the patents they have been granted basically all of it is commonplace in esk8, nothing they have a patent on is exclusive to meepo. So it doesn’t look like they play too hard with these patents.
Patent:
Other patents by Shenzhen Dibushi Skateboard Co ltd:
Proof SDS Ltd is Meepo:
https://uspto.report/company/Shenzhen-Dibushi-Skateboard-Co-L-T-D
I realized the other day that skateboards have 8mm axels with 1/2" nuts. so for some time very very far back skateboards have been a mixed bag of metric and standard. at which point I gave up picking on him about it.
Send me a design, i’ll see if i can sell it.
I heard newbee might have one
hehe. I look at that design. I see threaded rod as axel, with a big clamp shared between the radius rod and the motor mount. (shared clamp is not a bad idea. )
and again, the SRB clamps work great, infinite angles, and full track width adjustment. so the rods may seem out of the norm for you. .but they have features that others appreciate.