KALY-XLR Ernesto new creation.

Assembly, R&D cost, shipping

Being first to have a board that no one else in the entire market can touch in terms of features

2wd is kind of crazy for this price though I will say

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Maybe 2WD is by design for less failures or other reasons? 4WD isn’t “always better” just because it’s more expensive.

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Yeah That makes sense but as a company I feel that you shouldn’t make your customer pay for innovation
Lower prices=more sales

Unless shit don’t sell if course lol

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as someone with a Samsung 50e 4wd board - you don’t REALLY need 4wd for that amount of amps its capable of. its just nice to have slightly more tq. / cooler running temp

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I don’t think that this view is validated on such a niche

Kaly isn’t a “Company” in the traditional sense, while I don’t know exactly how much of his development he did himself, it is a valid way to absorb some of the development cost. I don’t know if he is ever going for volume. His current offerings were already extremely expensive

If his stuff is going to sell anyway, maybe he doesn’t want more sales. More sales means more customer service and could cause lower quality.

Anyway from me it’s all just hearsay from an engineer’s pov. I’m not buying one, nor do I currently own any Kaly because I want to own a nice car lmao

They are very cool though and the fact that he has custom carbon fiber decks, gear drives, an ESC, and everything is pretty neat

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You have a website to sell your product, you offer warranty and customer service, you produce and keep stock on pretty much everything you sell and most likely have an employee or two laying around :thinking:

That to me sounds like you own a company lol

Now tell me. Me as a customer. Why should I be the one funding the time for you to perfect the product you sell? It doesn’t seem fair to me

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I don’t think he has an actual employee, he said it’s all himself and he has a friend help him when the intake of orders is absurd or he falls behind

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I certainly hope they thoroughly tested their ESC with this huge battery :scream:

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Yeah I get what you’re saying, it all make sense.

I mean the simple answer is don’t buy it I guess, it’s up to the company owner to say why or why not he charges the price that he does. If none of them sell, I guess that would be the people saying they’re too expensive.

This is what I thought too. Which makes sense to me why he wouldn’t want 1000’s of orders coming in

Again just hearsay from my but I feel like both opinions are valid

What we are seeing here from Kaly is innovation though, that most “large” Esk8 companies aren’t doing much of

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just realized though this battery only puts out 80amps which really isnt enough to justify 4wd

Seems like every company includes R&D in there prices (those that creates things, of course)

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His shit is too expensive and he shouldn’t make the first batch of dumbasses pay for testing and product development

That’s how I’d like to close my argument :upside_down_face:

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80 amps at 20s :joy:

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It might be less R&D cost in the traditional sense too, I imagine his R&D cost is partly the cost of getting prototypes and buying things to test, getting one-off CNC parts made, etc.

Usually some R&D is a tax write off though, so IDK

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If it were me I’d price the first ones cheaper, so people buy more at the start knowing that the price will go up after a set amount of time.

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yep but still 20amps per motor when these are prob capable of 50amps each is a bit stupid
the motors wont be maximising their output in the first place

Exactly that :point_up:t3::slightly_smiling_face:
Remember when Lacroix lunched the prototipo deck

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That would make sense too, I wonder how long each one takes to put together though. Huge influx at the beginning could cause big delay in actually shipping the first ones

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not that many more KW that current high amp 12s set ups… unless I’m missing something. cooler running for sure.

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idk 1600w out of the battery is a lot lol

That’s 133a continuous on 12s, I’m sure some people here could pull that, maybe.

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