Juma Type 200 Trucks

I wonder if thane builds are more prone to this due to the amount of vibration experienced vs penumies.

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ok, i see.
hope that they get this completely sorted out :slight_smile:

personally I ride S10 trucks, because i like their looseness and missing rebound.
so this yumas are maybe something for me :thinking:

Seems likely, but I was on mad wheels, traditional thane might be even harder on the cam.

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Juma’s customer support is top notch.
I just got the package they sent me, steel cam and prototype rebound adapters!

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So, like @Avi i got the prototype rebound adapters as well. Took them out for a 18 mile ride and it felt much better relative to your traditional trucks. I generally ride Krank riptide bushings so am used to high rebound, and this was closer to that feeling. Only one duro right now as these are prototypes.

Downside of my ride today is that I thought maybe by moving the arms in I’d put them into ā€œcarvyā€ mode. But seems they were already in that mode, because my feet are sore from trying to turn. The ride was stable af at speed though.

I need to move the arm thingies back, and print the recommended +10-15 degree riser to try and get more turn out of these. I think it’s the no rebound aspect of the trucks which make them feel loose and initiate turns easily, but in terms of actual turning angle not much right now.

Here’s in stable mode, and I’m 200lbs:

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The lack of turning with rebound adapter is because the bushing gets caught and can’t compress any more. Juma is looking into alternative designs for the bushings to address the issue.

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@zero_ads From my conversation with Juma.

Regarding caster, dropping the angle will give you more steering per degree of lean, but there’s a tradeoff with high-speed stability.

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I haven’t gotten to ride them much this week due to the new puppy, but right after I put them on I did a night ride where my average speed was 9kph faster usual. Lots of fun.

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Yeah this all makes sense, but even without rebound I was surprised by how wide I had to make u turns vs my RKPs. Hoping more angle will help with tighter turns, but not so sure because of the rebound adapter as you’ve pointed out. And I wouldn’t ride without the rebound.

This is also why I mention duro, given a choice I’d go with a softer one.

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Regarding caster, dropping the angle will give you more steering per degree of lean, but there’s a tradeoff with high-speed stability.

If I understand the quote correctly increasing caster improves stability but decreases turn per degree of lean. This is the opposite of most of the trucks we use.

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Just curious:
wouldn’t springs be perfect for this?
Something like the springs from seismic maybe?

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That’s a good idea, only thing is from what I’ve seen it’d be difficult to hold the spring in place.

What about mounting the bottom of a spring to outer chassis bolt.

I think they need a pretty thorough re design, the rebound should be on springs and the minimum angle for the trucks should be built in.

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Agreed, we’re starting to approach the point where all these afterthought attachments really mean the original design wasn’t enough.

I could see that working.

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the design is basically is begging for a channel truck spring setup

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I disagree about the minimum angle being built in. I prefer them lower profile, that way you. Can choose a minimum angle. Perhaps the rebound adapters could be built in or built with an angle in the next version.

I’m not convinced a redesign is needed. I suspect with a few more prototypes rebound will be solved. In future versions my guess is rebound will be build in, but I really don’t think this version can’t work just as well with the right adapter setup.

I guess if you want something done right you have to do it yourself lol

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Crazy stupid idea what if we used tension springs instead of compression springs?