they are hard to tighten perfectly, and also its pain to change wheels as u said
although i’ve been getting to a point where once i have a pulley on the wheels, i ain’t removing them anymore 
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@rafaelinmissouri has used bolt-ons with them and had a poor outcome. Do not recco. Besides, the time for bolt-ons has come and gone.
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With the huge width of clouds is it plausible to have most people running pressfit with a bearing? Or is the preferred option to run a floating pressfit that isn’t really supported by anything (what I’ll be doing as a stopgap)
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I’ve been running mine with a modified set of Haggyboard pulleys that feature an integrated bearing. I’ve only ever used them with my Kahuas, though.
Edited because I am stoopid.
Do you mean a bearing or am I misreading sorry. And by only used them with your Kahuas do you mean only used clouds in general, or only this pulley setup? Last one because haggy doesn’t seem to be doing business so I can’t find up to date info, do the kahuas have a standard axle or what
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Sorry for being unclear. The pulley (showing my spare Kegel set as modded ABEC are on a build) is designed to work with a large bearing (seat shown below), which rides on the stepped up 10mm Haggy axle (below).
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Just bought a set of pressfit pulleys. I mounted one of the bolt on pulleys and didn’t like the way it worked out…
Also the gear ratio made my board pretty gutless so I bought one with more teeth…
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the higher wheel pulley t count = higher torque / less top speed
trade off is worth it imo, i don’t ride fast, but i need all that torque
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Running 97mm wheels and 16/36 pulleys was already too fast.
Next thing to change is maybe a smaller motor pulley…
If my board is capable of going 35 I will end up going 35 so I’d rather not have it be able to top out like that
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try 14t, u should get more torque, or maybe even 12t if u can find them
its not a all or nothing situation, if u don’t need to reach top speed, just don’t push / pull the throttle all the way, its not that hard 
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Tell that to my thumb it has a mind of it’s own.
It’s a lot easier to build the board so it’s not capable of going too fast than it is to just not go too fast
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I don’t like 12T motor pulleys at all, I end up having the belt way too tight and still having a bit of skipping and unnecessary wear. If possible just go up a few sizes in the wheel pulley to 44T and you can go back to a sensible size motor pulley. I’m running 16/44 with 140kv motors and 10S at the moment, torque for days but I think I’m starting to want a little more speed so I have some 18T on my bench and will likely order 20/22T just to try
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setting an erpm limit would leave u no brake once u exceed it. its not advised to do that
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oh… interesting. any links on the correct way to limit speed? other than gearing down? (I have pulleys on order but they havent arrived yet)
You want to use duty cycle limiting to determine the max speed
After picking that, you can appropriately set your duty cycle current limit start
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Quick question on the duty cycle current limit start
80% duty cycle at Full charge is faster than 80% duty cycle at almost dead charge correct?(It should be 80% of max speed on the charge level it is at)
I want to make sure that when I set a duty cycle current limit start, that it will react predictably. I would not want the current limit start to not kick in because my battery is dead and won’t hit hit that duty cycle current limit start.
My last crash was because I did not set this up, and I hit 95% duty cycle. I would always get a weird feeling in the board when I hit max speed almost like the trucks locked or the wheels became connected by a single axle. I dont know how to describe it, but I would have amazing speed control and carving ability and once I hit that locked feeling speed it became wobbly, the control for turning was dangerous and the board all around felt very unstable.
I just want to be able to trust my board when hitting max speed that it won’t feel like that anymore.
@b264 Brian can you help out, I haven’t personally set up a duty cycle limit before.
I think that Brian wrote down how to do this somewhere but I can’t remember where.
There was also a certain firmware version that had this issue too. Something that caused oscillation in the FOC frequency or something like that, caused speed wobbles pretty much.
The nice thing about duty limit too is you could set the limit to like 20% and then test how it reacts and not be worried about falling off at 30mph
400 miles isn’t that much, I’m surprised it failed like that
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