If TB were to disappear, where will we get new large thane?

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If TB 110mm wheels were to disappear, another manufacturer could fill the gap. Even one of the Chinese companies that has access to high quality urethane. New core design would be ideal. A design that has a much bigger core and surface area/shape to hold onto the urethane and reduce overall weight. Also nice wide contact patch and large diameter. Maybe 120mm x 70mm?

The biggest issues are the cost of the mold, cost for a new core mold, minimum order quantity (usually around 3000 units) and the market demand. I’m just not sure that there is enough of a market demand for large urethane wheels unless it has some really special attributes.

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We are not really working on a wheel to replace TB or the large diameter Abec-11. We are going for something a bit different

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let’s see if china can muster a solution to the challenge of the century: doing shit correctly

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what’s there to do? all they need is just one to one copy :joy:

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So why dont their kegel cores work?

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Do trampa gummies count? 125mm is pretty big but at least they don’t have any problems as far as I know.

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theres a long list as to why we dont use those

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Is there condensed information on why? They seem fine on my board.

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because chinese board doesn’t use pressfit pulley like BN or 3DS ones

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Why don’t we all just perfectly conform to the kegel standard dimensions?

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“because its close enough, and it works” that’s why :man_shrugging:t2:

as i chinese, i don’t even know why

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Exactly

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because 99.9% of their buyers dont care.
Why waste money on a new mold for 0.01%?

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Why put in the effort to make it different, why not copy it exactly

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Tell me its a 70mm kegel core with a tiny gear drive to match.

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ftfy :smirk:

no more plastic gears

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My Boardnamics pulleys work well with the Boosted 105 wheels I have.

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If the TB 110mm wheels were copied exactly, I would be concerned that the same separation issues plaguing them would occur.

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With the caveat that its basically impossible to have a even tempered discussion on outsourced manufacturing on the internet… I’m still going to say this:

[Hot take]
Excellent Chinese manufacturing absolutely exists. Its products are in your pocket and around you every single day. But. It requires different inputs than [guy on internet] with [niche hobby] working at [3 man startup] searching Alibaba for low volume manufacturing.

Unless you have a direct connect on the ground in China, deep deep pockets, need million+ widgets, or are producing cutting edge tech, how the fuck are you expecting (decades ago) American manufacturing quality for aliexpress prices?

It just doesn’t happen. And no product in Esk8 is selling in enough volume to make that happen.

It’s blatantly obvious the capability exists in China (everything is made in China), but really you (and I) can’t afford it and don’t have the time and resources to smooth out the problems that come up when setting up a production line.

Again, I realize a nuanced discussion isn’t going to happen, but people need to get out of this China-bad knuckledragger black and white mindset. The country of China is MASSIVE. There’s a gradient in all things, of course.

This isn’t even touching on the geopolitical aspects of international trade, supply lines, language barriers, cultural differences, etc etc.

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I think it’s a good take because it’s absolutely true. unless everyone wants to pay $400 for set of wheels its an unreasonable expectation.

additionally, if there was some sort of wheel core that was somehow used outside of esk8 that we can adapt, that would solve this issue…

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