Lacroix used to use Matrix II on the Prototypo, now they use Hypertrucks
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I didn’t even know that Lacroix had split angle decks. Is it something like 35’ front and 25’ rear?
Are there angled shims for decks like the Flux that have a symmetrical nose/tail?
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You can get angled risers for almost any truck, but if you go above 10 degrees it will leave the screws at a very odd angle and is less structurally sound
You can ride both of them in combination with Riptide, Venom, Blood Orange, and all other bushing brands out there. There are so many brands and possible combinations…
Our team members used Venoms in the initial test phase. Jens from E-Toxx (the first who made such NoSno style PKP trucks) used FIBRO industrial bushings.
He also made 2 and 3 Kingpin designs.
http://venomskate.com/bushings/
The plug barrels give a nice feeling!
Lateral shift works against steering. In consequence you lean more and get less turn. The feeling is less responsive. There is no one solution that is perfect in all ways. The channels are more responsive and more stable at speed, even if they are set to allow a tight turning radius. The twin kingpin design is more simple, has less mechanics involved and works for most riders in our team. However, it is not the golden solution…
So no problems here, someone used a known principle and design and everyone is happy about that.
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I had asked you earlier to help with my confusion on Hypertrucks. I assume you work for LaCroix? Is the name “Hypertruck” just the name you call all of your trucks? Do all Hypertrucks and all of your boards have the dampening feature? If not, when was that technology introduced?
To introduce a new winning product that’s better suited to the new Prototipo/Jaws replacement. Ok, it’s probably just a new hanger, rather than a new ‘truck’ per-ce, right?
You tell me
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Correct
We literally have only 2 models of hypertruck™ and the only change between the 2 is height of the baseplate
Refer to previous answer
A long time ago. I don’t believe Lacroix invented dampening. We simply optimised our design to utilise good potential from it
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This so much, there isn’t a single thing that make them great, is the combination of all little things enabled us to make them as awesome as possible, in combination with the rest of the board design also
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Good. Just leave that knowledge to our engineers and designers and continue feeling like riding on magic
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What I gathered from this thread is that the magic is in the split angles built into the Lacroix decks, and the use of bushings instead of springs.
Oh yeah, and nobody likes Frank.
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Sounds like a ‘no’, which sounds a lot like ‘new trucks’.
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Pretty sure no sounds like no 🤷 you know?
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So, to correct my original post, i did ride a Lonestar and a Lonestar SS, but i think what made them feel distinctly different was the way they were set up by the rider. The lonestar was set up for a 120lb dude who likes to ride super loose, The SS was owned by a 250 lb dude, not sure what changes he made as far as set up. As far as the thread goes, it would be awesome if the mods moved all the off topic arguing elsewhere. It would be awesome if someone posted pix showing whats different between Hypertrucks, Kaly Trucks, and Flux trucks.
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Lacroix understand that good bushings are a key part of good trucks. These are the main difference between hypertrucks and the mbs matrix.
But at this point my recommendation is to start another thread with the serious tag and leave this place to burn.
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This plays a very big role in universally pleasing customers. If you take into account the fact your weight vs another’s weight won’t cause the same style of ride on the same duro this explains why we offer 6 different duro hardness from riptide. That alone creates a very big world of possibilities.
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I was new to Hypertrucks and channels trucks in general. After an initial learning curve, they’ve become my favorite to ride amongst all my boards. I feel like channels require more of a body lean than RKP or TKP but easy to master quickly if you’ve skated for any period. Early stuff I was reading was questioning their stability at high speed. Saw a video of a guy getting wobbles with them. But I’ll say that I haven’t seen any of that like I was expecting. I quickly went to soft/medium bushings on the setup and re-geared it for higher speed.
It’s pretty nice to have confidence to carve comfortably at 30+ on these. I need to try some Matrix 2’s to compare. There’s a few mods out there to use Hypertruck bushings with other channels.
I’ll also add that I did change out the plastic kingpin bushings and used a good amount white lithium grease to get them quiet at first.
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