Homebuilt, Overengineered, Next-generation Drag And Cannonball Racing Vehicle

This is the quest to finally build the engineering marvel that humankind has dreamed of since the dawn of time — the incredible:

I’ve been working on this on and off this year, but it’s 2 months till TEF1 Atlantic so it’s time to buckle down and actually build it, unless I want to stay on the underpowered board I was riding last year.
Objectives are as follows:

  • Use 10 inch kart tires like all the cool kids
  • Use the 4WD 6385 Reacher 245Kv / SKP Solo combo I’ve already got
  • Comfortable handling at highway speeds, not just survivable handling
  • Have a large available lean angle for comfy turns on-track
  • Fit my 201cm ass on the board without a cramped stance

To fit points 1 and 2, the large tire diameter and high revving motors require a gear reduction at least 7:1, which would require 11T pinions on a stooge setup. I’ll be making laser cut 109T gears and matching motor mounts so I can enjoy longer service life with 15-17T pinions. Wheels are ready to go:

Taking care of points 3 and 4, I’m going to make my own trucks with a fully constrained pivot with about 45 degrees of lean, because I like Dualities but wish they went even farther. The rear will have no steer, and the front will have an ackermann steering knuckle system, go kart style. I think that lacking stable steering geometry (i.e. contact patch trails the steering axis) is really what’s holding boards back after you get rid of all the mechanical slop that normally causes speed wobbles. All of our conventional trucks get increasingly reactive as speed increases, which eventually forces you to choose between making the board rideable at high or low speeds.

Point #5 just requires a long ass deck. Already done, and it’s 45", 11-ply maple, fiberglassed, 3D print winged, W-concaved, black stained, fritted, and schmexy:


The belly pan has been cut, but needs processing.

The goal is to finish the work in Fusion this week so I can order all the laser cut parts, since that’s the current order-of-operations bottleneck. The printed parts for the enclosure sidewalls, cable, and bus bar management are ready to go, but the brackets need to be welded to the belly pan and the frame needs to be painted before the enclosure work can start.

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Spec Sheet:

  • Wheelbase: 1425mm
  • Track: 675mm
  • Motors: Reacher 6385 245Kv x4
  • ESC: SKP Solo V1 x4
  • Battery: CNHL 120C hardcase LiPo x18 (18s 24Ah 1550Wh)
  • Drives: 1.5mod open gears 16:109 ratio
  • Tires: Bridgestone 10x4.5-5 wet compound
  • Wheels: DWT spun rims with @jack.luis kart adapters
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Can we hang out more please? We live so close to each other and you’re always doing the coolest shit

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Take me with u, this is so cool!

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18s 245k go brrrrrr, that erpm is gonna be nuts. Plus you’re gonna chew through your pinion gear quick with 7:1 ratio on 11T pinion. :sweat_smile:

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Vouch, @esk8.speedster and my brother Gialong ate them for breakfast on inrunners

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Oh, the point is that I’m making 109T gears so I can use 16T pinions. Should last at least a couple of heats. :grin:

I’m gearing for 70mph since 1200N of thrust is plenty for me lol. The strategy is to have it so that I’m not hitting that eRPM very often in the first place. I think splitting the difference between hitting max eRPM vs hitting max current is the way to manage motor heat.

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I’m worried about ur 109T. Word form @Mbrady is that rotational inertia from such large gears makes for terrible handling

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If that’s true, the tires would be a much bigger culprit since they’re several times more massive than the gears and have a larger radius. Has anyone complained so far about big wheel race boards handling sluggishly?

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Tires, no. Gears yes when bigger than 78. Something about the steel gears themselves being not light as is.

Don’t quote me on that, all Morgan’s take from his large gear experimenting

I highly doubt you’d actually feel any difference. The tires have much more rotational inertia than the gears.

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I did 127t gears and they were horrible. Less could still be ok.

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Just when I thought I had the perfect board dreamed up in my head some yahoo comes along every time and has to one up my imagination. But I love the endless possibilities.. I won’t be happy till I’m riding something like the silver surfer since we’re still dreaming..

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Don’t u just love the esk8 community: where EUCs have their fun popping off wheel after wheel, performance record after record (and cut out problem after problem lol) esk8 is where PEVs and DIY together is at its best with people cooking up something mindblowing every time for everybody else to see

Also ya I agree: just when I thought my build that im writing up ti post on here was cool, then thid guy comes long :upside_down_face:

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Amazing build, can’t w8 to see it ! For the erpm you want to achieve you will probably need encoders or an esc with phase shunts

amazing build! just make sure to have a proper overengineered remote to match with that! :wink:

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He actually doesn’t use a remote :sweat_smile:

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He already has his over engineered remote haha

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What speeds does this imply?? I’ve said for quite some time highway speeds are a goal of mine and I believe I’m working towards it, currently 55mph brave, hope to be 65mph brave someday. Excited to see what you come up with here!

Thanks!

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