Help me complete my setup please [SERIOUS]

so 12s7p is an option I guess, If I buy 24 more cells

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Didn’t see the disaster from the other thread…

Looks like you have enough room for a smart bms

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There are many ways to build a battery, especially when you have as much space as you do.
Here is one of the ways to build them

There are many good examples in that thread.
In general:
Trim nickel corners especially for the positive pole (some feel it is not necessary)
Use paper rings.
Isolate p groups between them.
Try not to cross balance wires.
Cover exposed conductive surfaces while working on batteries to avoid accidental shorts.
Fuse the charge port.

I am sure I am forgetting something.

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A decision on cells and parts needed is what I need right now I guess. If Im ordering cells and bms I need to do it asap

so Ican do 12s5p with a smart bms or 12s7p with a regular bms I take it?
What are the advantages of the smart bms?

From what I see, you have the space for a smart BMS with 12s7p.
A smart BMS among other stuff, lets you see the voltages of individual p groups.
So if a p group starts to drift, you know you have a problem somewhere.
Whatever you do, go for a charge only BMS.

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I like it.
So I will buy the smart bms and 24 cells, Now I need fish paper and a female xt60 connector plus a connector for the battery charge port and a charger.
Can I get this anywhere in one hit?

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I doubt it.
I haven’t checked the items you need but always buy more that you think you need.
Waiting 1 month for 0.5m of fishpaper or similar sucks.

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Tell me about it. I thought I did a smart thing buying a psychotiller and now Im facing the very thing I wanted to avoid.

just please make sure the amp rating on the charge port is suitable for your charger… but if you do like @taz suggests to fuse your charge port, we’ll all have a funny story to laugh at not a house fire…

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24 cells. NKON
Fish paper. ?
Female XT60 connector. ?
fuse and plug for charge port. ?
Charger. ?
Smart BMS. ?

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All of that except xt60 can be aliexpress

Also would go xt90 instead of xt60

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I have this charger from the old backfire

Welcome man,
I am based in Osaka nice to meet you here.
Nkon doesn’t ships to Japan anymore.
Your best option is queens battery at the moment.
XT connectors insulation rings etc. you can get on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/s?k=xt60+connector&sprefix=xt60&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_4
The BMS, Fishpaper, Charger, I would purchase on Aliexpress, the shipping to Japan is still quite quick I just bought and received stuff recently.

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That’s an 10S 42V charger and will not work for a 12S battery, for Japan I wouldn’t recommend this type of charger, gets too hot in Summer. Get one with a fan built in.

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That’s a 6s battery charger

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can I 12s5p it now and upgrade to 12s7p later without needing new equipment?

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MY vesc wires have an xt60 plug fitted, is it really worth redoing that?

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What amp fuse should I use for the charger cable?

2 * amperage of the charger

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