I laid out two premises. Are you saying both are not true?
If this were true then brands that compete would release wired remotes. But they don’t.
I can at least point out ways in which they may not be true. I’m not claiming they are false.
Those would have to be true for every brand that doesn’t make a wired remote, no?
I’ve thought the same thing and made a joke about using wired during esk8con when I had some trouble with my setup.
I think a lot of the reason we don’t see wireless is the original use case for eskate was really pushed as a last mile commute option. Like short range boards that were light weight that we would all carry on the subway in NYC and use to get from to the office from the last stop on the train.
In those situations a wireless remote is nice since you’re not stumbling around with a cable.
For say long group rides or track I think a cabled remote could be a great solution. Something that could instantly revert to a wireless connection upping cable disconnect would be really cool too. Instead of strengthening the cable, strengthen the ability to survive a disconnect.
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Data over a wire can suffer from interface as well.
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I can def see how a wired remote isn’t sexy and cool. That would certainly make it less practical. I think I’d still want wireless for my commuter.
Let’s look at it from 3 points of common use:
When you look at an RC forum, they are all using wireless because, duh they have to.
When you look at the ebike and emoto forums, the only times you get disconnects of the input is from a physical crash or wiring it incorrectly. ESC freaking out and sending commands is an esc problem, not a wired receiver problem.
When you look at our community, you find endless examples of remote weirdness throwing boards into curbs, windows, burning out on carpet, etc. The amount of times that it comes down to a user crashing the remote or wiring a receiver wrong is pretty low honestly. Majority of the time, I feel it’s programming it wrong or vesc doing vesc stuff.
Wired remotes should always be picked if it doesn’t interfere with the end use case. I see arguments for both sides, honestly.
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How would a wired remote change this?
Yes, there doesn’t seem like there’s an absolute truth here.
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There will never be an absolute truth
I just don’t think technology addiction is a thing engineers have been suffering from
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Ebikes are a great example of hard-wired use that works.
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Absolutely, doesn’t have downsides when used on an ebike
Plug and play. You don’t program wired throttles. They work out of the box on a 0-100% input range and are used on so many rideables that the development is there to support it.
Engineers, no.
Marketing and hype chasers, yes.
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Yeah as a well versed user you would choose the wired connection. But the marketing group at the esk8 company about to launch a commuter board would like to have a word with you lol.
I would use one for sure on track if after trying it I felt it didn’t leave me wanting more freedom.
Back when I road a Onewheel I did the VNR setup where you run a parallel battery in a backpack with a long cord terminating in a xt60 at the board. Whenever you fell off it would simply disconnect. It never felt all that in-the-way but did get annoying having to reconnect each time you forgot about the cord and walked away from the board for say a crosswalk signal button press.
You’d have to calibrate it at some point. Either at the factory or by the user when they replace them. Just like RC
Also, you will never have a charged board and an uncharged remote if it’s hardwired. You know we’ve all been there…
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I would also really like a wireless fallback approach though. Disconnects physically and instantly connects wirelessly would be ideal. At least give ya a chance.
This is why I love that the puck can be used while charging. I’ve done a ride with a long USB cable from my puck to the USB port on my esk8 bc it died lmao
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I’d say this is arguably negligible as the same hall sensor setup would need some sort of calibration/testing before being installed into an esk8 remote that would be sent to you in the first place right?
Puck use while charging is a really nice feature honestly . I tried to wirelessly charge my maytech remote with my phone once while riding and it worked out so terribly.
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That’s my point haha
There’s nothing wrong with the wired remote idea. I just hate the simplistic “technology addiction” explanation