ESK8 Racing needs our help to grow

This is a location in upstate NY that I plan on using for this event if I end up being successful. I’ve got some folks already privately commiting to helping if we go forward.

It’s a small family owned ski hill. I looked up the property lines and came up with a rough layout

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Spec Racing at the Cactus Cup.
We have 11 spec boards and counting for racing.
Its arrive and race, bring your safety gear.
Dot full face helmet, knee, elbow, and spine protection.
Should be a fun day, hope to see you all there.

Happening Tomorrow!

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Race Results Cactus Cup hosted by I2s AZ
7am i2sAZ had 5 members at the track location setting up and prepping the race surface. Sign ins were at 9. By 10am we had open track practice. They ran qualifying, then 10 rounds of heats followed by 5 main events. All completed before 3pm.

Beginner Class: James, Vincent, Travis

Sportsman: Rai, Caleb, Allen

Pro: Reggie, Andy, JJ

Heavy Spec: Reggie, Allen, Rai

Light Spec: Ruxx, JJ, Dina

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FULL SEND SPEC CLASS :high_voltage:
hosted by: @stoogeraceboards

this is where it gets real

spec boards go into quarantine on arrival
no tuning, no advantage, no excuses

• 1 warm up lap
• pill draw sets the heat grid
• 2 heat races
• heat finishes determine main grid
• main race laps decided by majority on race day

every rider on the same power :balance_scale:
it’s not about the board anymore… it’s about you.. so come bring that heat :fire::chequered_flag: register for spec today!

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A person recently told me Esk8 racing was dying and on its way out. Thanks @brady.esk8 , @hairymanjack and everyone who stuck with it, putting Esk8 racing back in its proper place as the fastest PEV racing class on the planet.

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Really? How so? There’s scooters and EUC racing as well in the PEV scene doing some insane speeds.

Let alone the Drag Racing… Teverun 7260R / Daytona Hooga: These models dominate in drag racing, with some setups capable of reaching speeds 90mph +

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“Race class”

Comparing lap times at Willow with top level EUC and ESK8 racers, not just top speeds of devices.

I don’t know if it’s always the case but for sure this weekend esk8 had EUC licked. Fastest laps and I believe (not positive) top speed in race. I heard Jack was in the mid to high 60s mph

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I had the fastest lap of the entire event by over a second of margin to the next person, and 1.1 seconds to the fastest EUC lap of the entire 2 day event

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Not taking away from the efforts or speeds achieved, or even against the other types.. your guys commitment is wild. I very much wish I could be out there helping do more to support the sport in general.

The wording of fastest pev racing class on the planet is a wild over stretch and the only thing I was saying. :two_hearts:

Drag racing is still racing, just a different sort.

I don’t know of any “official” drag races that have happened besides the esk8con one. Would be cool if there were.

But I bet some of our heavy hitters could give most PEVs that are similar in class (not a stark for instance at esk8con) a run for their money depending on the top speed to hit or distance etc.

0-40mph in 2.2 seconds is pretty dang fast.
If you haven’t seen these times check em out.

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For sure.. am very familiar with this… but it’s still not the fastest racing class on the planet as stated by Stooge, it’s just the wording and I’m being pedantic probably, that’s not the point tho :wink:

@JesseM I stand by it. Esk8 is “Fastest PEV on the planet.” We “closed course Track race”.
Track racing is measured in lap time. It is a symphony of acceleration, braking and turn grip. There are literally no other forms of PEV that can hang with esk8 at this time on a closed course track. NONE!

If you have trouble with that concept Bring your dedicated for drag racing scoot scoot to the track and find out whats being said here. All Scooters are absolutely useless for closed track racing and cant turn for shit. Any dum dum can run a throttle and go straight.

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You can stand by it as much as you like, your blanket statement is plainly untrue.

“On this track”

“In this format”

… Many other ways to say it and be actually true… but sure, play with words as much as you like.

He didn’t say worlds fastest PEV on the world, if that helps. There are super fast electric go carts, atvs, snowmobiles, mini-motos… but the statement “esk8 is fastest racing class in the world” is not false today.

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i’m in agreement. if there are curves, four points of traction are always going to be better than fewer. yes, four smaller points may not equal fewer larger points but one does not equal one/four when it comes to traction. but who cares what hoyt thinks anymore. lolz.

Methinks they doth protest too much.

Racing is not constrained to symphonic movement.. lol.. fwiw, I would love to agree, in fact, I think Esk8 racing is singularly the most exciting form of racing I’ve come across in years, truly driving. The respect I have for the people getting on with it cannot be understated… this alone does not justify the statement at hand. This is not the ONLY form of PEV racing, nor is it the fastest form of PEV racing.

“fastest PEV racing class on the planet”

This statement is bollox.

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Definitely seems like the scoots and ebikes are quicker from a glance/quick search

My problem with a track like that is… The track features are entirely out of scale of what a skateboard can do.

Like taking a tech deck to a skate park.

What’s exciting about a skateboard making a 80’ radius banked turn?

Let me throw a wrench into this whole discussion.

I’ve been to a couple local Intro2Speed events at this point, you now what I think Esk8 racing needs in order to grow? It doesn’t revolve around cementing it as the fasted PEV class.

Why, because development and growth are two separate things.
Faster and more capable boards, and setups, and strategies? That’s development.
Building audience and involvement? That’s growth.

You know what the lifeblood of any sustainable community is? New members.
You know how you gain new members? You remove barriers to entry.
What does the jumping on point of esk8 racing look like?

Does it look like this?

The sports not going to make it very far if the jumping on point look like that.

Sustainable growth takes more than just the most committed and the most enthusiastic.
As those people steer the community in that direction more and more, it risks making involvement of the less committed and less enthusiastic, less attainable.

Instead of more Intro2Speed, I think the the sport could benefit from some Intro2Slow.
Track and race design centered around capped acceleration or something to that effect, where people don’t have to feel like one of the critical factors is whoever can YOLO the hardest.

I’d like to see a track where the length of the straightaway is short enough and the acceleration is slow enough that nobody is going to reach an uncomfortable top speed, taking advantage of that straightaway is entirely about maximizing the amount of time you can commit to accelerating.

I’d like to see that same track having a mid course dual line slalom run, one long enough where your slalom performance could be your ticket for passing someone on the parallel track.

And I’d like to see a track that’s interesting even for beginners with prebuilds on gear/mode 1 or 2.

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Wanted to make sure radium’s win over two stooge boards is posted here since he decided to be a toxic again in their official vendor thread.

Radium makes a better board that your home depot hobby project, btw you fix those shit welds that almost killed one of your racers yet?

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