ESK8 Racing needs our help to grow

[MoeStooge]

[fessyfoo]

@Esk8Cave

like some of your ideas and really think, how we race here in Europe is a good starting point to get more people into it. David and the crew of XERACE evolved this series year after year and tried to make the experience better for everybody. From beginners to pros.

1. We are racing here on narrow and technical tracks, check. So the pure power is not so important. Lower speeds in total reduces the risk of bad crashes and injuries.
2. We are racing in time attack mode. David upgraded the way of time measuring year after year and almost everybody gets the chance to see progress for themselves live at an event. Also it is so accurate and precise, so it gives you a feeling of professional racing. Another plus is, you are always around people with a similar pace in a group of max 8 riders. It gives you a feeling of safety, especially for beginners. Also the risk of crashing into each other while racing is minimised dramatically.
3. I love to see the crazy ideas and builds of people like @tuckjohn and @Dinnye, because it is so awesome to see what is possible.
   But, I would love to see a few regulations even in the Open Category here in Europe.
   My top choices would be:
   — Maximum up to 200mm wheels
   — it is forbidden to use closed footstraps like snowboard bindings(don’t know the exact name😂)
4. I am not really a big fan of the idea of „stock racing“. I remember my first approaches of doing clocked times around a track on a stock board with my best friend on the same board and tires. Difference was the weight. I am carrying around 20kg more with me and I am 15cm taller. I couldn’t get close to him, no chance. And adding weight classes to it, would make it so much more complicated to get a full grid. So less people, less fun and learning for everybody. Especially for the beginners.
   The idea from last year of XERACE with the category „Open 2WD“ in combination with short/mid length racetracks is probably the best starting point and the most easy one to implement into existing events. As a beginner with a stock board or an advanced/pro rider, who doesn’t want to go fully mayhem with 4WD etc., gets the perfect combination of both worlds. Still the possibility of DIY, but also racing slightly modified prebuilt or totally stock boards, because of the layout of these technical tracks. In this category you could easily compete with something like the MachOne of Radium or the MLR. @Tony_Stark
   And the cherry on top is the newest implement of David. One challenge race for the fastest 8-10 riders of every category. So you get the chance at the end of an event to race wheel to wheel. But you don’t have to and probably have still won something or got on the podium.

It is always nice to chat with @davidpilny about new ways to get more people attracted to racing and how to get the events better for everybody. He is a legend and really passionated for all the riders.

[MoeStooge]

Moe B Biggs on Instagram: "@brady.esk8 set quick time at...

SoS Spec race #1 of 4
three lap heats and four lap mains

Intro (novice)
Pro
Heavy

SOS 1 of 4

[MoeStooge]

Moe B Biggs on Instagram: "SoS Race 2 Hosted by I2sLA Pics by...

SOS Race By Stooge Race Boards + I2S OC

Where are the next great racers. In order for esk8 racing to grow, we need to seed the sport from the bottom up. Often, potential new racers are discouraged by being overwhelmed with the speeds, costs and danger involved with modern raceboards. We tend to focus on the top tier riders and lose the opportunity to have a place for new racers to cut their teeth.
Spec: By reducing cost and maintenance, a “new to sport” person can focus on learning control basics while getting comfortable with shoulder to shoulder competition. Fundamental skills of mastering edge of lateral grip, timing of a pass, building, and carrying momentum are crucial and hard to learn. The big one is learning to fall. As speed and grip increase, so does injury risk, multiply that risk with inexperience.
With low grip low power, Spec class allows both newcomers and seasoned veterans a place to race and learn. The low speed gives you time to see, think, and react. The low grip rewards grip edge mastery and momentum. Aero rewards from tuck and pack racing. Low power rewards, being consistent. You see quite a bit of passing, the racing is more like a chess game than a dog fight.
It has been fun watching newcomers step into an unfamiliar sport they otherwise would not.
The best part is that the intensity level is lowered and the racing is entertaining and fun.

Race 3 results

[MoeStooge]

Congrats to esk8 podium. Tef1 Pro esk8 race Oct 18
P1) Gialong Tonthat (srb v-5 2wd)
P2) Jack Farah. (3-link DIY 2wd)
P3) Ruxx Smith (SRB V-6 Big wheel 2wd)

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQ48GYRkz6W/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Congrats to esk8 Spec podium. Tef1 Spec esk8 race Oct 18
Sonoma Ca
P1) Ruxx Smith (Moehawk)
P2) Richie Delosada (Moehawk)
P3) Dina Katch (Moehawk)

https://www.instagram.com/p/DRA-BEDkql-/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Congrats to Esk8 podium. AUSPEV pro esk8 Nov 14/15/16/17
Accumulated points over 4 days of racing.
P1) Taz Ventouras (srb V-5 AWD)
P2) Jeff Cameron (3-link DIY AWD)
P3) Dylan Bell ( Radium Mach1 2wd)

https://www.instagram.com/p/DRI3_S7EhDn/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[jack.luis]

TEF1 Atlantic 2025 - Save the Date

Can we get the results of this race including what board was being ridden and specifically what trucks? Seems like we list that now but for some reason not for this race??

could we get the results posted in this thread?

[TZDKB]

Big weekend of racing around the globe - congrats to the AUSPEV participants, and hope Full Send goes well next weekend.

Here are our xErace Pitland Season Finals Podiums:

Open Category
P1. Henrik Dehn @Esk8Cave (RE44 w/ Dualities 4WD and Exway v2 Tyres)

P2. Tilo Zhu @TZDKB (Linnpower The One w/ Dualities 4WD and Exway v2 Tyres)

P3. Bence Vistra @Dinnye (Tomiboi w/ Dualities 4WD and Kart Tyres)

2WD Category
P1. Oskar (Flux w/ Matrix? and CSTs)

P2. Fabian (Onsra Velar)

P3. Simon (Evolve Hadeon)

Street Category
P1. Vasek (Onsra BC3 w/ Boosted Wheels)

P2. Lukas (Mach 1 w/ Boosted Wheels)

P3. Dan (Modified Exway Atlas w/ Slalom Trucks)

Thanks again to @davidpilny for hosting everything and running the event super smoothly, can’t wait till next season.

edit: feel free to look through the results https://xerace-1270ac0ee0af.herokuapp.com/index.php?race=2025-Prague-Finals&view=tv&menu=hide&

[MoeStooge]

@Dinnye
Indoor concrete racing surfaces have proven to be very tire specific to find decent grip. A narrowed contact patch with a medium compound on synthic rubber seems to be the key. Especially on smooth concrete. Very curious of your cold compound well used kart tire impressions for this difficult to get ahold of racing surface?

[Dinnye]

This one isn’t the usual “polished” concrete surface, but concrete with some sort of grippy paint layer on top. They repaint the whole track twice an year as far as I know.

In abrasiveness it’s far from actual asphalt but significantly more abrasive than polished / epoxied concrete. This specific surface doesn’t seem to be as harsh with tire choice as our polished indoor track, but it’s been a while since we visited that.

I can for sure tell you that the 9x3.5 CSTs I was using for a while held decent on this but were like riding on ice on polished concrete. This photo also shows the surface relatively well.

I’ll probably be visiting a polished track in February but that one had a fair bit of rubber on the surface last time so it’s probably on the grippier side of polished tracks. Will be taking the now brand new (but 5-6 year old production clearance sale) Bridgestone wets there. They definitely feel a bit softer than these worn ones. Will report back how that goes.

That said back to how the cold compound wets worked out here. Even during the warmup half lap of carving they already had great traction, and by the actual heat laps they held great. When I was doing like 5-6 continuous hot laps in a row in practise I was feeling like the back just started to get a tiny bit more slidey. Regarding tire temperature I wasn’t looking closely but have measured around 25c front 30c rear after a 3 hot lap heat. So guessing around 35 or just above as max temp. Ambient was probably just over 5c.

These wets didn’t seem to give me more grip than the slicks had after a few hot laps, or if they did it was just a small amount. The warmup time of the slicks was too long for our 3 lap heats in the november temps, and the wets just seemed to be much more consistent level of grip no matter their temperature.

The overall grip level felt good, but I could definitely push them to the limit without trouble in most corners. The wets seemed to like higher speed turns more than the slow very short radius turns, while the slicks were fine on both, but overall lap times were similar. I think the brand new ones would’ve performed better but don’t think that alone would’ve made enough difference to dethrone Hendrik. If the weather would’ve allowed me to practice more then maybe. Although where I kinda struggled is second direction heats even though I liked the layout better that way. I didn’t want to do more than like 5 practice laps that direction to save tire tread, but would’ve definitely benefit from more laps fine tuning my racing line because I really lacked consistency that way.

I did feel like the Exway venator 2.0s had slightly more grip than these worn wets just judging from Hendriks performance on them. I did also get to try them on Tilo’s board, but I couldn’t push them hard enough to have a “qualified” opinion on their grip level. The throttle just didn’t feel right to me and gave no confidence.

I however really did appreciate the size of these tires when I went over a crack wrong trying a new line and had a sketchy save.

[sharpruner2]

Is it a yearly challenge?

[jack.luis]

@Dinnye

It was a @Titoxd1000 Duality only podium

Nice racing!

[MoeStooge]

We ran short track in Colorado in 2018. It was a painted epoxy surface with grit put in the paint. It looked slick but was abrasive. The guys on thane were a bit better than on asphalt. The 125mm BRP wheels were not as good but fair. The track surface really tore the soft rubber tires up. Haven’t seen a surface like it since.
Sounds similar to what you guys were running on.

[Dinnye]

That does indeed sound quite familiar. I actually haven’t run any fast wearing tires on this surface to confirm if it chews up softer tires fast. But I think at the kart wheel width we should be able to get away with very soft compounds while still having good tire life.

The bridgestone cik prime slicks I started on could take around 30-40 sessions of short track racing (mostly asphalt) pushing their limits before the rears wore down enough so that I replaced the set, and in decent weather those are softer than pretty much anything except maybe race BRPs. Don’t have enough wet tire experience to comment on the lifetime of those tires but expecting less than the slicks.

[jack.luis]

HEY ALL. These Go Kart wheels look pretty sick on these race boards. If you want something like what’s being posted in this thread check this part out

@MacKeeper28

Hi all,

Go kart tires are starting to catch on in the esk8 racing scene. Like it or hate it, I wanna try it, and currently the only way to do so is by having Stooge make you a custom 5/8” axle for your 3-links and modifying an off the shelf go kart hub to mount to his gears.

I wanted something with maximum compatibility with existing esk8 trucks, drive patterns, standards, and go kart wheels, so anybody can use these tires to “ruin esk8 wheel to wheel racing forever” -@Evwan

Enter:

GK Hubs

[Dinnye]

While we are at it, I might as well share a teaser here. I’m also working on selling parts around the kart wheels, the goal is to come out with a rolling chassis ideally just before esk8con. I’ll be racing on that at esk8con, pros will be welcome to demo it. Everything will be made in Europe on my own machinery.

[jack.luis]

I’m excited to meet you at esk8con!!

[MoeStooge]

Talked with a guy on the new tires frim exway/CST. They look like they are going to be a real solid race option.

Exway 162 ACE CST Track Tire

It looks bitchin.

[Esk8Cave]

They are a real deal - it is amazing how great they perform and hold up.

[Esk8Cave]

I uploaded some footage of my riding on these tires on Insta.

Hendrik on Instagram: "Destroyed the previous best ever lap in the @xerace_cz...

I improved my personal best lap in Pitland 1.33sec compared to my fastest lap on BRP‘s. This was in the XERACE finals. It is also now the fastest ever lap in Pitland - 32.00sec. I didn’t change anything else on my board.