True but it wasn’t “designed” for it, it was the same wheel, just with different printing, right?
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Yes, different core, polyurethane colors and different silkscreen. Otherwise the same wheel. Just like the Metroboard 107mm wheels.
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Ah I see
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Easy to say if you didn’t have the wheels that delaminated. If TB had come out and said they had a bad batch and provided reassurance it wouldn’t happen again I may have reconsidered buying another set. But no they didn’t, complete silence on the issue instead so they’re off the list for me.
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Music to my ears keep finding ways to brake them. Keep testing to the limit and fined new ways thay could fail. As mutch as it’s annoying every failed wheel tells you a bad road to go down and just makes the next version more reliable.
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Good to see you looked in to the ABEC evolution and why we even have large wheels now. Why wheels are flat on one side.
Yeah… With the whole DD situation that happened too, I’ve lost a lot of trust in TB. I don’t think I got any wheels from the bad batch, but I’m going to be extra cautious with my set now
I’m glad these wheels are in the work tho 
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I want to say the Abec 107mm was designed for eskate. Before there was superfly, there was the wider “electric flywheel”. I recall seeing a manufacture brushed motor board with them, I don’t recall the name. This was before any esk8 specific forum at that. Could be wrong though.
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Altered skateboards, I believe.
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That’s right. You can see videos from over 10 years ago with that board and Abec wheels. Flywheels being the first esk8 specific wheel perhaps? Superfly being the successor. Just some esk8 history, carry on.
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Doug dont let them bully you into being our custom wheel group buy slave until you finish these and have a proper staff. Lmfao. 165 all the way. Anyone who wants 120 wants 165 more. Thats for sure.
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$300 set of thane wheels lol
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Ha. Yeah. I am 100% focused on putting my resources toward this wheel first.
Next week, new material will arrive and then should start injecting the new materials.
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This might be a totally outta left field question, but it there a reason why silicone wheels aren’t a thing? It can have better thermal properties and has a wide durometers.
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One reason why Polyurethane is so popular is because of its high abrasion resistance but typically the heat deflection and vicat softening point is lower than semi-crystalline compounds like silicone rubber.
Also skateboard wheels are predominantly made through a casting and curing process, so it also limits the selection of materials, but I am using much different manufacturing processes, so it allows me to explore other materials.
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If were bringing up different rubbers, I find the vibration dampening qualities of sorbothane very interesting. Its commonly used in music equipment, but in the less common cases its been used for shoe inserts it apparently on par with poron. I want to try it as griptape. The kind im looking into is very soft and squishy, but in a wheel design like this it could be very interesting for, idk, extra comfortable inserts?
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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I am playing around with those. It’s definitely a balance. Polyurethane has good rebound characteristics and doesn’t really do that great of a job of vibration dampening so it is good for extending range because of rolling resistance. My initial thought it still to make the suspension inserts out of very urethane. Every plastic/rubber/silicone blah blah blah has it’s advantages and disadvantages.
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Hello everyone,
Just a quick update. Still waiting on material to come in. AHHHHHHHHHHHH.
We adjusted the melting point and the characteristics of the current TPU thread, but then my vendor said that they also needed to adjust the core material as well because the injection temperature is going to be a lot higher, so it would warp and shrink the current core material.
Also, deliveries in China are starting to take longer because the Delta Variant is impacting them.
I got the other set of material and it has arrived, but the manufacturer wants to wait to get all the test materials in because it is a bitch to swap out tooling from their machines. They said the new core material should be done this past week and I messaged my business partner to get me a timeline. Sorry for the delay. Just anxiously waiting.
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On my other businesses, I literally have to order inventory 1.5 to 2 years in advance because COVID has completely messed up the semi-conductor business and rubber binder. Horrible time to be in a hardware business.
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